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U.S. offers to take in Burundi refugees
Associated Press ^ | October 17, 2006 | Barry Schweid

Posted on 10/17/2006 1:31:30 PM PDT by Zakeet

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To: lonestar67

No, I don't think so.

My father had one, as did countless others.
I'll try to rustle up a picture of him in uniform.


21 posted on 10/17/2006 1:53:49 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: teenyelliott

They certainly should. So many diseases are coming back into the USA like tuberculosis,Chagas Disease,Leprosy,Dengue Fever,Polio,Malaria,to name some and lets not forget the mumps outbreak the midwest had last year.


22 posted on 10/17/2006 1:54:00 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: lonestar67
Let me beat the anti-immigration zealots to the punch and say that I am glad they are coming.

I haven't seen too many anti-immigration zealots on FR. I have seen a number of anti-illegal-alien zealots. Count me among them.

These refugees are absolutely welcome, IMO. I would offer to have some in my home, if needed.

23 posted on 10/17/2006 1:54:08 PM PDT by TChris (The United Nations is suffering from delusions of relevance.)
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To: navyguy

I'm willing to take your bet, but neither of us will ever know, will we? I simply don't subscribe to the "the U.S. saved my life so I'll repay the debt by going on welfare" thing.


24 posted on 10/17/2006 1:56:40 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: bill1952

That is excellent.

His service is much appreciated.

In any case, the quotation is from Ronald Reagan speaking at a Presidential ceremony in 1983.


25 posted on 10/17/2006 1:57:03 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: lonestar67

Let me beat the anti-immigration zealots to the punch and say that I am glad they are coming.


Even the Europeans are seeing the error of their ways concerning immigration. They had *good* intentions too.


26 posted on 10/17/2006 1:58:24 PM PDT by wolfcreek (A personal attack is the reaction of an exhausted and/or disturbed mind.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

She is supporting 4,000 kids with her foundation/charity.


27 posted on 10/17/2006 2:01:50 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: lonestar67
Reagan was the Man. - Good quote.

There have been 3,461 Medals of Honor Awarded for 3,456 separate acts of heroism, performed by 3,442 individuals, including 9 “Unknowns".

There are 111 living Recipients of the Medal of Honor.

Dad passed on in 1990.

28 posted on 10/17/2006 2:06:35 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Zakeet
Why doesn't Madonna adopt them?
Because she has already adopted her aet African, the new Hollywierdo trend. Every well to do actor should have one. Cute little dyed pink purse puppies are out of style.

As for 10,000 more refugees, no thanks. Support therm in their homeland.
We don't need more welfare cases here, or Muslim fanatics who want to kill us. Unless they can be screened and made sure they are Christian, then forget it. We do not need to further destroy our Nations culture and founding principle.

29 posted on 10/17/2006 2:07:46 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary (Bukhari:V1B1N6 “Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country.”)
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To: lonestar67
Go back and read what you said. You said the "iraq war". You couldn't back it up. What you said was silly liberal feel goodism.

As far as totals to date of hispanics (who brought them up?) they are no longer winning medals out of proportion to their numbers. Look at their numbers, here. They are over represented in our prisons, though.

30 posted on 10/17/2006 2:11:13 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Nathan Zachary
she has already adopted her pet African
31 posted on 10/17/2006 2:11:19 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary (Bukhari:V1B1N6 “Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country.”)
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To: fight_truth_decay
"She is supporting 4,000 kids with her foundation/charity.

A small price to pay to get a Pet African from a region that other Hollywiedo's don't have.

32 posted on 10/17/2006 2:15:28 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary (Bukhari:V1B1N6 “Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country.”)
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To: 1rudeboy; lonestar67; All

Despite declining use of welfare nationally, immigrants and limited English speakers still make up a significant share of those on the welfare rolls. Immigrants compose around one-third of the TANF caseload in California and New York and nearly one-fifth in Texas.

Immigrants on TANF are less likely to be working than natives and more likely to be working in occupations that provide little opportunity for speaking English, gaining skills, and achieving self-sufficiency.

http://www.urban.org/publications/310874.html

Mexican Use of Means-Tested Programs Remains High Even After Welfare Reform. Figure 12 reports use of means-tested programs for households headed by natives, all immigrants, and Mexican immigrants. Despite welfare reform and a strong economy in the latter half of the 1990s, the figure shows that immigrants in general and Mexican households in particular use every major means-tested program at higher rates than natives. While use of Supplemental Security Income (SSI) by Mexican households is only slightly higher than that of natives, their use of TANF/general assistance, food stamps, Medicaid, and the subsidized school lunch program is dramatically higher than households headed by natives. All of these programs are very large in size. In 1999, more than $300 billion was spent on the means-tested programs listed in Figure 12. Even the school lunch program, the smallest of the programs listed in the figure, costs more than $5 billion annually.

http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/mexico/means.html




The 1994 refugee survey found that about 57 percent of the refugees surveyed
were self-sufficient, 43 percent were receiving some form of cash assistance: 24
percent on AFDC, 5 percent on Refugee Cash Assistance, 7 percent on Supplemental
Security Income (SSI), and 7 percent on state and local General Assistance
programs. A comparison of 1994 data with 1993 data indicates that refugee
welfare dependency rate is going down. In 1993, the dependency rate was 48.7
percent; in 1994 it was 43 percent.

Slightly more than 50 percent of all refugees reported that their medical
coverage was provided through Medicaid or Refugee Medical Assistance and that
the utilization rates varied widely among ethnic groups -- from a low of 23
percent for Eastern European refugees to a high of 71 percent for non-Vietnamese
refugees from Southeast Asia.

About 27 percent of all refugee households samples had received AFDC in the past 12 months

http://www.hhs.gov/asl/testify/t960206a.html


33 posted on 10/17/2006 2:15:57 PM PDT by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: lonestar67
"The overwhelming majority of immigrants will make better citizens that those who were born here. We know this given the large percentage of medal of honor winners in the Iraq war that are immigrants."

Sounds like you don't like Americans to me. Also sounds like your version of American History started when the Iraq war did.

How about WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam. Or maybe you don't think the Millions of Americans who died during those wars were good for anything.

It's because of them that your sorry ass is even allowed to post on this board. I would say more but no doubt I would get kicked off this board for the language I would use.

34 posted on 10/17/2006 2:18:30 PM PDT by Post-Neolithic
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To: monkeywrench; lonestar67
medal of honor winners

People who have earned the Medal call themselves recipients, not winners. The Medal is not a prize awarded at the end of a sporting contest.

http://www.homeofheroes.com/hometownheroes/index.html

This site, by the way, was developed by a 12 year old and his parents.

35 posted on 10/17/2006 2:24:01 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: Nathan Zachary

What makes you assume that these people will be on welfare?


36 posted on 10/17/2006 2:27:08 PM PDT by technochick99 ( Firearm of choice: Sig Sauer....)
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To: WatchingInAmazement
First of all, I'm not interested in what the Urban Institute has to say. Your other information is interesting, and if I skimmed it correctly, shows that the majority of refugees do not require public assistance. I'd be curious to see how long your typical refugee remains on public assistance, but wouldn't know where to begin looking for the information.

I'm not interested in speaking of illegal Mexican immigrants, or conflating their data with that of those granted political asylum.

37 posted on 10/17/2006 2:30:27 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: technochick99
What makes you assume that these people will be on welfare?

Because refugees/migrants use more welfare than the native population. See post 33

38 posted on 10/17/2006 2:31:54 PM PDT by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: lonestar67

The presidential quote sounded familiar to me. Other people beat me to the punch, but I'm guessing Ronald Reagan. I'm also going to go way out on a limb and say it was Reagan at the MOH ceremony for Roy Benavidez who, btw, was half hispanic and half native American.

Roy Benavidez was one BAD MoFo!!! By far the toughest man I've ever, ever, ever read about. I mean, 3 or 4 fistfights per day, EVERY DAY, for a DECADE as a child!!! Parachuting with a broken back- twice in the same day! For the incident in Vietnam where he was awarded the MOH, he had something like 32 different puncture wounds from bullets, shrapnel, hand to hand knife wounds, etc. One NVA hit him on the back of the head full force with a shovel. Benavidez turned around and, IIRC, killed him with his bare hands.

Benavidez once got really, really pissed off at Elvis Presley during Korea. Roy wrote that Elvis cost him a 30 day liberty.

You guys wanna know who was the baddest, toughest American who ever lived? I just told you who he was- Roy Benavidez.


39 posted on 10/17/2006 2:45:23 PM PDT by MyDogAllah
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To: Zakeet

BTW, why are we accepting these African refugees, but not accepting the white refugees in zimbabwe who are having their property stolen by mugabe? The white farmers in mugabestan could come to America tomorrow, could be earning their keep by this weekend, and be well on their way to prosperity by harvest time in 2007.

I was really hoping Dubya and Condi could reform the State Department and put some common sense back into immigration policy. I guess not. So, burn the place to the ground, fire Condi, and put Bolton in charge of the place.


40 posted on 10/17/2006 2:50:02 PM PDT by MyDogAllah
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