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Posted on 10/17/2006 8:15:37 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

Do you remember when Puerto Rico was raising heck about the US Navy usingthat nothing little island just off the coast of Puerto Rico for bombing practices, which they had used for the past 75 years?

Demonstrations were held, Hollywood left wingers, Al Sharpton, and his fellow demagogues went down there to demonstrate to get the Navy out?

I am sure it infuriated you just as it did me at the time. Well, here is our revenge.

Always be careful what you ask for, you just may get it!

One of the many headaches that the U. S. has had was the Puerto Rican Island of Vieques. In the waning years of the Clinton Administration, Protesters demanded that the US Navy abandon bombing and naval gun fire exercises that had taken place on the largely uninhabited island for nearly seventy years. Liberal icons bumped into one another to fly to Puerto Rico, boat over to the island, trespass (but never on a day that there was an exercise scheduled) and get arrested for the benefit of the New York Times or Newsweek. They included the Reverend Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Joan Baez, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Edward Olmos, Michael Moore and Ramsey Clark, just to name a few. In 2002, the bombing exercises were transferred to an Air Force bombing range in central Florida, not far from the Jacksonville and Pensacola Naval Air Stations. In January, many of the protesters were back in Puerto Rico, celebrating the final bombing exercise on Vieques and waved Puerto Rican flags and placards that read:

"U.S. Navy, get out of Puerto Rico."

The following February, Rumsfeld announced that the U.S. Navy will close the Roosevelt Roads Naval Air Station in Puerto Rico in 2004, eliminating 1200 civilian jobs as well as 700 military positions. This naval facility is estimated to have put nearly $300 million annually into the local economy.

The next day a stunned Governor Sila Calderon, held a news conference in San Juan, protesting the base closure as a serious blow to the Commonwealth's fragile economy. The governor stated that "The people of Puerto Rico don't now or never did have an interest in closing the Vieques bombing range or the Roosevelt Roads naval base. We are interested in both staying in Puerto Rico."

When asked, the Commander-in Chief, Western Atlantic Command, said, "Without Vieques, I see no further need for the facility at Roosevelt Roads. None."

So, Yankee go home? Fine. But we'll take our dollars with us. Hasta la vista, baby!

Germany

On February 21, the Secretary of Defense also announced that starting this year, the U.S. European Command would begin moving most if not all of its active combat and support units from bases in Germany to others being established in Poland, The Czech Republic, Hungary and Turkey to "better position them for rapid deployment to likely hot spots in those parts of the world."

Immediately the business and government leaders in the German states of Hesse, Rhineland and Wurttemburg, protested the loss of nearly $6 billion in revenue each year from the bases and manpower to be displaced.. A spokesman for the Foreign Ministry speculated that the move may be "what the Americans call 'payback' for the actions of this government in opposing Military action in Iraq".

" Does anyone know the German translation for: "Hasta la vista, baby?" I think "Aufwiedersehen, liebshen" is a good translation.

Also, here are some statistics and conclusions about a different subject. If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theatre of operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2,112 deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.

The firearm death rate in Washington D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000 for the same period.

That means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in the U.S. Capitol, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation, than you are in Iraq.

Conclusion: The U.S. should pull out of Washington.


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Does anyone know if Roosevelt was indeed closed?
1 posted on 10/17/2006 8:15:38 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD

"U.S. Navy, get out of Puerto Rico."

Most of us wish we were as successful with the "USA out of the UN" issue.


2 posted on 10/17/2006 8:17:59 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil

Couldn't agree more. Move it to Caracas.


3 posted on 10/17/2006 8:19:47 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD

The stupidity and uselessness of the liberals never ceases to amaze me -- and somehow they survive...


4 posted on 10/17/2006 8:20:56 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: 3AngelaD

Paybacks are hell.


5 posted on 10/17/2006 8:24:21 AM PDT by coon2000
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To: EagleUSA

ping for later - excellent email


6 posted on 10/17/2006 8:24:27 AM PDT by everyvotecounts
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To: 3AngelaD
it's true..a skeleton crew of about 200 remains until it's handed over.


bon veorgy


Doogle
7 posted on 10/17/2006 8:25:17 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF 69-73...."never store a threat you should have eliminated")
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To: 3AngelaD
"Does anyone know if Roosevelt was indeed closed?"

The station was closed on March 31, 2004.

8 posted on 10/17/2006 8:26:20 AM PDT by Fatuncle (Of course I'm ignorant. I'm here to learn.)
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To: 3AngelaD
Also, here are some statistics and conclusions about a different subject. If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theatre of operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2,112 deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.

The firearm death rate in Washington D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000 for the same period.

Our troops in Iraq are heavily armed and live in military bases. DC residents do not.

9 posted on 10/17/2006 8:27:35 AM PDT by zimdog
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To: 3AngelaD

close the bases where we're not needed nor wanted. they can all get stuffed anyway. i grew up in singapore for the first third of my life and wondered why the u.s. didn't have a base there like the poms and the aussies - afterall, we were sandwiched between 2 nutter muzzie countries - malaysia and indonesia. thankfully, singapore and the u.s. got smart and opened up a small base there.


10 posted on 10/17/2006 8:27:41 AM PDT by thubb
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Our troops in Iraq are heavily armed and live in military bases. DC residents do not.

Yet!

11 posted on 10/17/2006 8:33:40 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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and somehow they survive...

Mind boggling, isn't it?

12 posted on 10/17/2006 8:38:24 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: 3AngelaD

The story you posted was slightly embellished, but is largely true.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/vieques.asp


13 posted on 10/17/2006 8:41:15 AM PDT by Prime Choice (True Conservatives don't vote for Liberals just because they have an 'R' by their name.)
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Where did you get the firearm death statistic's?
14 posted on 10/17/2006 8:41:55 AM PDT by MdPoke
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To: MdPoke

I did not write this, so I did not "get" the firearm death rate. It is probably fairly easy to find on the internet.


15 posted on 10/17/2006 8:48:03 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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They said, "Don't come back here, Yankee!"

But if I ever do, I'll bring more money, cuz all she wants to do is dance (and make romance)


16 posted on 10/17/2006 8:52:16 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Expect a lot of democrat poll-smoking between now and 11/7)
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To: Obadiah
... and somehow they survive...

A common misconception. They are no longer alive. They merely vote.

17 posted on 10/17/2006 8:52:49 AM PDT by Fatuncle (Of course I'm ignorant. I'm here to learn.)
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To: 3AngelaD
Vieques. Yes I remember that little island well as a young Sgt. of Marines in the early eighties. I was doing DF work on a hilltop and was bit in the neck by a tarantula while laying on my poncho liner catching a little shut eye. I felt something on my neck, reached up and got a handful of hairy spider. When I grabbed him he nailed me. I screamed like a little girl, LOL, radioed for a chopper, jeep, mule or gaucho to haul me to a medic and the LT. calmly told me "Suck it up Marine they aren't deadly just painful". I still laugh about it to this day LOL. Took some ribbing for the call until they saw the fang marks on my neck.
18 posted on 10/17/2006 8:57:08 AM PDT by lakeman (when a marine kills the only thing he feels is the recoil of his rifle)
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To: 3AngelaD
Also, here are some statistics and conclusions about a different subject. If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theatre of operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2,112 deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.

The email isn't specifically dated, but the 22 month mark in Iraq would have happened in January, 2005. This isn't one of those round the world emails, is it? I thought the Puerto Rico story was about that old anyway.

Ah, the laws of unintended consequences. Gets the libs every time.

19 posted on 10/17/2006 9:04:53 AM PDT by GreenAccord (I'm GreenAccord and I approved of this message)
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To: 3AngelaD
If the Lord was looking for a place to give the Earth an enema, Vieques would be a top candidate.
20 posted on 10/17/2006 9:30:50 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends we need a 800 ship Navy.)
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