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To: Atlantic Bridge
Personally I think that those nations whose people want to bail out should leave as quickly as they can.

It's not that easy though, this burgeoning bloated monster that is the EU just won't die no matter how many times it gets hit.

Just look at the reaction of French and Dutch leaders to the constitutional vote last year....oh, we just need a re-think and a bit of reflection.....oh OK then!!

In Britain the only stern opposers to the EU are UKIP and BNP and as many a cynic knows the controversy over the EU is kept to a minimum in the media so as to stop the enemies of this over indulged cronies club voicing their dissatisfaction at the grotesque waste of public money that these oafs gobble up every week to keep their lives of elitism and hedonism topped up....

Everyone see's it but can't seem to stop it!!

15 posted on 10/17/2006 2:11:55 AM PDT by snowman_returns (beware!....once a lefty, always a lefty.)
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To: snowman_returns
Just look at the reaction of French and Dutch leaders to the constitutional vote last year....oh, we just need a re-think and a bit of reflection.....oh OK then!!

The constitutional vote was clear. The French and the Dutch do not want it that way. Period. Since there is a rest of democracy in Europe you can be sure that the constitution will not come in its original sense. Neither in France nor in Holland such a vote can be ignored.*

The question here is different. Does the UK (or any other European country) want to be member in the EU? This is a simple question that could and should be asked in a referendum.

If the people want it okay - if they do not the country has to leave.

We need much more direct democracy in Europe. There are some key questions that only can be decided by the people and by nobody else.

* Interestingly the majority of both countries is usually pro-EU. The reason why they said "no" to the constitution was the EU-enlargement into the east (and espechially the plannend enlargement to Turkey). Most of the continental population likes the idea of a "core". That means that a few developed nations like France, Italy, Germany and the Benelux should merge closer together, while others like Spain or Poland have the possibility to join in later if they are able to follow the development and last but not least if they want to.

The recent enlargement to eastern Europe was the death of the old EU.

16 posted on 10/17/2006 2:49:03 AM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (De omnibus dubitandum.)
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