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Why Americans Should Pay More Taxes: A Nobel Winner's View On Productive Economies
Wall Street Journal ^ | October 16, 2006 | Mark Whitehouse

Posted on 10/16/2006 6:30:33 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yet another example in which the Nobel Prize has been awarded for ideology rather than accomplishment.


41 posted on 10/16/2006 7:11:56 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Dead Corpse

DeadC,
Thanks for reminding us of the fundamentals. Very well put.


42 posted on 10/16/2006 7:13:36 AM PDT by Marylander
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To: isthisnickcool
If these two guys are so smart and have a few bucks why can't they figure out that they can afford porcelain veneers?

Maybe because they have better things to do than trying to attract dumb blondes?

43 posted on 10/16/2006 7:15:22 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hugo Chavez is the Devil! The podium still smells of sulfur...)
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To: FreedomPoster
"...I don't like thinking that we bought, say, crop subsidies..."

Or, Turkey Basters for Lesbians...

44 posted on 10/16/2006 7:17:09 AM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: The Worthless Miracle
It's always the "professors" with their noses buried in a book their entire lives who believe as this guy does. They really don't offer anything to society, imo, they just have the luxury of getting paid to sit around and indulge their curiosities, while everyone else has to work!

"The most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that they do not work. Therefore we should not be surprised to find the left concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to survive." --Thomas Sowell

45 posted on 10/16/2006 7:18:49 AM PDT by tx_eggman (The people who work for me wear the dog collars. It's good to be king. - ccmay)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

In choosing Prof. Phelps, and awarding the Nobel Memorial Prize in economics to him, the committee is ignorant about economics.

Higher taxes don't do anything but cause inflation. This professor is teaching Robin Hood to college kids. No wonder we have so many liberal 20 year olds in the USA.

This Nobel award is comparable to jimma catta getting the Nobel Peace award. The entire Nobel process should be taken with a grain of salt.


46 posted on 10/16/2006 7:20:00 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (DBM - still trying to create a nonexistent legacy for BJ Clinton.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Our tax system is just fine, it's the welfare state that is unsustainable. If this professor wants some proof, all he needs to do is look to the western European nations, which generally have far higher tax rates than we do.

Alfred Nobel must really be rolling around in his grave.

47 posted on 10/16/2006 7:20:46 AM PDT by jpl (Victorious warriors win first, then go to war; defeated warriors go to war first, then seek to win.)
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To: no dems

and they now vote dem


48 posted on 10/16/2006 7:23:58 AM PDT by avile
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Maybe because they have better things to do than trying to attract dumb blondes?

Or smart blondes, or dumb redheads, etc.

49 posted on 10/16/2006 7:26:28 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sliding butt stock, carry handle, gas operated. Named after a horse. What am I?)
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To: tx_eggman
They really don't offer anything to society, imo...

Kind of like Congressional pages and lawyers?

50 posted on 10/16/2006 7:27:52 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sliding butt stock, carry handle, gas operated. Named after a horse. What am I?)
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To: Dead Corpse
I agree, it appears that Marxism's influence on economics in the West continues. I thought the Labor Theory of Value was discredited. The success of middle and upper class individuals is rarely at the expense of the poor. This Marxist concept of class warfare and exploitation seems to believe that our economy is a pie that gets no bigger and is "cut" buy the exploiting capitalists at the expense of the proletariat.
51 posted on 10/16/2006 7:30:11 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: soccer_maniac

Correct. I was a bank examiner for 25 years and have been a banker for two years. I have observed thousands of borrowers and bank customers in my reviews. To a large extent, the key to financial success is not how much you make, but how much you spend. Sure you have to have reasonable income, But there are lots of "low or moderate" income people with a couple hundred G's in the bank.

The principles are the same for macro-economics and government spending, which is why I am livid with Republicans right now . . . but not angry enough to for Democrats. They are still far worse.


52 posted on 10/16/2006 7:32:00 AM PDT by RatRipper
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To: Dead Corpse
"When are these idiots going to realize that no matter how fancy you get with your explanations of how "socialism can work if we do it THIS way", that it won't? Never. Ever."

I believe it was the Iron Lady herself who said: "The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money."

53 posted on 10/16/2006 7:37:45 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: tx_eggman

Wow!

Thomas Sowell for President!


54 posted on 10/16/2006 7:38:03 AM PDT by fwdude (LEFT LANE ENDS . . . MERGE RIGHT)
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To: RatRipper
"To a large extent, the key to financial success is not how much you make, but how much you spend."

AND, what you spend it on. Poor people buy "things", wealthy people invest in assets that gets them even MORE income.

55 posted on 10/16/2006 7:40:57 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
This professor obviously never heard of the "crowding out" effect. The removal of money from the private sector into the hands of the government has an effect of removing efficient investment from the economy. Governments don't measure things in terms of productivity, profit and loss and wealth creation - private investors do. Thus virtually anything government does has a lower economic yield than what the private sector would do, and has a distorting effect on the free market.

Government should get the hell out of the way, not become a leviathan.

Regards, Ivan

56 posted on 10/16/2006 7:42:35 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Always Right

The poor don't pay taxes. The lower 50 % of incomes pay about 3% of the taxes. Raising taxes might push more of 'em in to a taxpaying bracket.
On the other hand, it might just fuel inflation.

The professor is correct about "unsustainable" but wrong about tax rates. We have an unustainable spending rate. We need to stop spending, not raise taxes.


57 posted on 10/16/2006 7:44:20 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

"The thinking of this year's winner of the Nobel Memorial Prize in economics, Columbia University professor Edmund Phelps... "


I stopped reading here.


58 posted on 10/16/2006 7:46:23 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Apparently, the Economics committee is bound and determined to make that prize as useless as the "Peace" prize.

Except to those that get the cash award.

59 posted on 10/16/2006 7:55:37 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: jveritas

Another reason is because we invest rather than save, and have highly efficient equities markets.

That's why the Chinese have to save - they have nothing better to do with their money - which, by the way, is fully owned by the state, if they are really Communists.


60 posted on 10/16/2006 7:57:03 AM PDT by mcashman
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