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Attack on gay marriage: Gov blasts Bay State in his own backyard
Boston Herald ^ | October 16, 2006 | Jessica Fargen

Posted on 10/15/2006 11:03:58 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement

In a passionate pitch simulcast to millions of Christian conservatives across the nation, Gov. Mitt Romney blasted gay marriage in Massachusettsas a danger to kids and urged the passage of a national ban on same-sex marriage.

“The price of same-sex marriage is paid by the children,” said Romney during a brief but peppy speech from Boston during a forum hosted by the Family Research Council. “The child’s development is enhanced by the nurturing of parents of both genders. Every child deserves a mother and a father.”

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bostonherald.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: evangelicalvote; firststrike; gaymarriage; gopnomination; homosexualagenda; mittgetsabackbone; rino; romney; socialconservatives

1 posted on 10/15/2006 11:04:00 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Mitt Romney is courting social conservatives - beginning with all important evangelical vote. Hence his address to the Family Research Council on marriage and the family. Of course he's running for President!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

2 posted on 10/15/2006 11:08:24 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Give it up Mitt, you're 2008 campaign is DOA. We're not falling for your games.


3 posted on 10/15/2006 11:09:42 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock *not* Angelides. YES on 85, Parental Notification.)
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To: newzjunkey
I agree with him. Any one who thinks the family isn't the little platoon of society needs to get their head checked.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

4 posted on 10/15/2006 11:11:47 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop; newzjunkey

I agree with this particular thing, but would like to know why newzjunkey thinks he's planning games. I haven't been a real Romney supporter, but can't cite a reason, really. There is something that just doesn't sit right with me. Any info would be helpful. Thanks in advance.


5 posted on 10/15/2006 11:22:09 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1
"agree with this particular thing, but would like to know why newzjunkey thinks he's planning games. I haven't been a real Romney supporter, but can't cite a reason, really. There is something that just doesn't sit right with me. Any info would be helpful. Thanks in advance"

Romney got elected as a moderate-to-liberal on social issues, and has been trimming his sail to a new constituency, adjusting to the right. I think that's what he's talking about.

6 posted on 10/16/2006 12:03:38 AM PDT by cookcounty (Coach Hastert: Good news! Your insurance DOES cover spine implants.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
From the article:
“Once again he [Romney] chooses to demonize loving couples and families in Massachusetts as part of his heartless crusade for the presidential nomination,” said Marc Solomon, campaign director from MassEquality. “Everyone but Romney has moved on and we just wish he’d finally bite the bullet, move out and drop this pretend game of governing.”
Nice try Marc, but it ain't gonna work.

It didn't work in 1987 when your queer brethren suggested we'd eventually come to treat your perverted and twisted lifestyle with a "shrug of our shoulders" and it ain't gonna work now.

Face it, ya'll are fighting a long, uphill and, ultimately, loosing battle to ram your sick agenda down our throats.

On Nov 7th I will proudly vote for what the South Carolina fagots (http://www.scequality.org/at_stake/background/amendment.html) call the "Discrimination Amendment." Like I said, ain't gonna happen.

7 posted on 10/16/2006 12:20:39 AM PDT by upchuck (Q:Why does President Bush support amnesty for illegal aliens? A:Read this: http://tinyurl.com/nyvno)
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To: newzjunkey

Given the alternatives out there (i.e. McCain, Rudy, and and (unfortunately) George Allen), Mitt Romney doesn't look too bad...


8 posted on 10/16/2006 12:47:42 AM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: cookcounty

Romney is just another in a long line of politicians playing evangelicals for saps.


9 posted on 10/16/2006 12:51:37 AM PDT by thomaswest
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To: thomaswest

This evangelical is none too happy with the Family Research Council for giving the liberal Romney a platform and lending him their credibility.


10 posted on 10/16/2006 12:56:30 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created..." - Thomas Jefferson et al)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Once again, Romney proves that he is a "cover-the-road" politician.

Only thing is, he ain't gonna make anyone happy.


11 posted on 10/16/2006 12:58:35 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created..." - Thomas Jefferson et al)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Romney - Hero or Bum?



We received this story from Utah in early April but thought we should wait and see. We now believe it should be run at this time.

Romney, the 'Cover-the-Road' Politician

Will conservatives support his stands on abortion and homosexual Scout leaders?

David M. Bresnahan is an award-winning investigative journalist and author who lives in Utah and was formerly with WorldNetDaily.

By David M. Bresnahan
June 18, 2002

Mitt Romney has enthusiastic support from the people of Massachusetts in his race for governor of the Bay State, but has he turned his back on the values and beliefs of his church for political gain?

Some have called him a moderate, or middle-of-the road politician. In reality Romney has practiced a "cover-the-road" method of winning support from everyone by giving answers that please many on both sides of the issues.

Romney's had a choice of returning to Massachusetts to pursue elected office there, or to take advantage of his presence in Utah. He is a member of the predominant Utah faith, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and he is at the peak of his public acclaim as the savior of the 2002 Olympic Games. It would at first glance seem to be an ideal time to pursue a political career in Utah.

The actual choice was made over three years ago when he accepted the challenge to save the Olympic Games. Some of his closest supporters at that time made it clear he would return to Massachusetts and would never run for office in Utah. Even one of his detractors made the same claim at that time. It is now obvious that they all knew what they were talking about.

Never Win in Utah

Romney knew then that he could never win a campaign for any office in Utah, where 73 percent of the people are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and have very strong family values. There is no compromise on issues such as abortion and homosexuality for the vast majority of voters, which is the reason Romney knew he could never win an election in Utah.

Utahns believe that abortion on demand is always wrong, and that it is only to be considered if the life of the mother is at stake. Even then, many would choose sacrifice if it would save the life of the child. Homosexuality is considered to be a sin, and the LDS people of Utah believe they should love the sinner and hate the sin.

Romney is a member of the very small minority in his church who oppose these teachings. He takes a different stand on both issues. He knows he would fight a constant battle explaining his politically motivated positions if he stayed in Utah. He does not want moral values to the be focus of any campaign.

Romney is a master politician and public relations expert. He was asked to speak to a luncheon gathering of LDS public relations people who were preparing more than a year in advance of the Olympic Games for handling the anticipated requests for information they expected would come from the media of the world. Romney spoke about his public relations manipulations during his 1994 U.S. Senate campaign against Sen. Ted Kennedy.

Romney was candid about the methods he and his staff used to shape the views and thinking of the people, but he was defeated by his own faux pas and by the master manipulator, Kennedy. When he finished his presentation he excused himself from lunch and departed. The next speaker was Elder Henry B. Eyring of the LDS Church Twelve Apostles.

Eyring made it clear, in a very nice way, that the methods described by Romney were not the methods to be used by the LDS Church Olympic volunteers gathered in the room. He wanted to be sure those present were not thinking that Romney was delivering a message on how the Church should manipulate the media of the world. Indeed, those volunteers, and many hundreds more, ultimately served the needs of 1,333 members of the world media who came to the News Resource Center of the Church during the 2002 Winter Olympics. That was done without using the tricks described by Romney to manipulate the press and the public.

Members of the media were simply given the information and materials they asked for so they could file their stories. There was no effort to manipulate those stories by the public affairs volunteers.

Dances Around Issues

Romney has been carefully trying to dance around the many statements he has made regarding the issues of abortion and homosexual leaders of the Boy Scouts. His comments have often changed based on the audience of the moment.

What he cannot escape are the responses he made on those issues at an October 25, 1994 candidate debate between himself and Kennedy. He was clear and to the point. His answers were surprising, considering that he has been a prominent leader within the LDS Church in Massachusetts and he has been on the Board of Directors of the Boy Scouts of America.

Romney said that he is in favor of homosexual leaders for the Boy Scouts, and he believes every woman should have a right to chose whether or not to have an abortion.

During the debate, Sally Jacobs of the Boston Globe asked: "Mr. Romney, you personally oppose abortion and as a church leader have advised women not to have an abortion. Given that, how could you in good conscience support a law that enables women to have an abortion, and even lets the government pay for it? If abortion is morally wrong, aren't you responsible for discouraging it?"

Romney tried to please both sides with his answer, stating that he has strong personal beliefs, but adding that he doesn't want to impose his beliefs on others. So he is pro-choice but doesn't use those words to describe his stand.

"One of the great things about our nation, Sally, is that we're each entitled to have strong, personal beliefs. And we encourage other people to do the same. But, as a nation, we recognize the right of all people to believe as they want and not to impose our beliefs on other people. I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time when my Mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. I believe that since Row v. Wade has been the law for 20 years, we should sustain and support it. I sustain and support that law and the right of a woman to make that choice. And my personal beliefs, like the personal beliefs of other people, should not be brought into a political campaign," said Romney.

Homosexual Leaders for Scouts

During the same debate he was also asked a very direct question about whether he supports having homosexual leaders for the Boy Scouts. His church sponsors more Boy Scout units than any other sponsoring group in the nation, and his church leaders have stated that they will drop their sponsorship if the Boy Scouts accept homosexuals as leaders.

Tovia Smith of Boston University radio station WBUR asked: "Mr. Romney, you say you're a moderate on social issues. One who will defend abortion rights, equal rights for women, for blacks, and for gays. In fact you say you will do more to promote gay rights than Senator Kennedy. You also sit on the national executive board of the Boy Scouts of America, which has an exclusionary policy banning gay members. Do you support that policy, and if not have you ever done anything as a board member to oppose it?"

Again, Romney tried to answer in a way that would please the vast majority of listeners. He didn't take the middle of the road, but instead tried to cover the entire road by the very nature of his response.

"I have let my views be known," said Romney. "I have been to one board meeting now of the Boy Scouts of America board (as of 1994). I believe that the Boy Scouts of America does a wonderful service for this country. I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue. I feel that all people should be allowed to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation."

It was that last statement that would come back to haunt him time and time again. Romney believes that "all people should be allowed to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation."

That is a view which is in direct opposition to his church and to the BSA national policy. Romney showed his colors during the Olympics when he made it clear that the Boy Scouts would not be a part of the Olympics as they had traditionally been throughout modern Olympic history. There would be no Scouts in uniform for the public or press to see. Romney wanted no complaints from the homosexual community or the world press.

In every past Olympics, regardless of host country, the local Scouts have participated in some way -- in uniform. In fact, some of the past Olympics even used Scouts in uniform to present the awards to the Olympians.

However, Romney had no problem with including homosexuals as part of the Olympic Games. In fact, he went out of his way to include them in a way that would gain him significant support from that constituency. Remember, Romney knew three years ago that he would return to Massachusetts after the Olympics.

Hid Scouts from View

Romney was very careful to eliminate the Boy Scouts from view. He appeased them by permitting Scouts to perform litter cleanup of Olympic sites before the Games began, and to help with putting up and taking down of security fences. All out of view of the public and the media. He also very cleverly made sure the homosexual activist community were invited to participate in the Olympics in a meaningful way that they would brag about.

The homosexual website Gay.com from the United Kingdom did that very thing on January 30, just before the games began. An article read by homosexuals all over the world proclaimed: "Winter Olympics First To Welcome Gays."

"The Winter Games in Salt Lake City, Utah, next month will be the first to open its arms to the gay community. Organisers [sic] of the 2002 Winter Olympics have actively gone out to get the gay community involved. The Salt Lake Olympic Organising [sic] Committee (SLOC) invited two members of the community, Michael Marriott and Laura Milliken Gray to the group's 'Volunteer Work Group' to get gays involved.," the article reported.

The story went on to quote homosexual Olympic volunteers about what a very positive experience they were having, and the involvement of the homosexual community.

"Gay men and lesbians are volunteering their time at the games, opening their homes for the families and partners of Olympic athletes, and are serving on a SLOC committee. Our community has arrived and has taken its place at the table," Marriott told the website reporter.

Romney's campaign in Massachusetts was carefully planned and orchestrated from the beginning of his work in Utah three years ago. Romney knew exactly what he was doing, and his entire campaign will be a masterful political triumph.

Everything needed for victory is in place. Support from key constituent groups who have tremendous ability and power to get their people out to vote, along with vital financial donors are all lined up and ready to go -- with enthusiasm.

No promises were made during the Olympics by anyone. Romney is far too clever for that. He knows that if he makes friends those friends can then be called on when the time comes. And now the time has come. Calls and personal visits are being made to ensure those friends are now his political supporters.

It is likely that the majority of Christians of all denominations, including the LDS faith, will vote for Romney at the polls. It is likely conservatives will embrace him. Everyone loves a winner, and many will put their arms around him as he continues to manipulate with his Clinton-like "cover-the-road" politics. He has charmed and will continue to charm the voters of the state.

More importantly, Romney has won over the press. They are always ready to pounce if he slips and falls, but unless that happens he will most certainly be the next Governor of the Commonwealth.

http://www.massnews.com/2002_editions/06_June/061802_mn_romney.shtml


12 posted on 10/16/2006 1:02:07 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created..." - Thomas Jefferson et al)
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To: sageb1
Romney said that he is in favor of homosexual leaders for the Boy Scouts, and he believes every woman should have a right to chose whether or not to have an abortion.
13 posted on 10/16/2006 1:08:07 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created..." - Thomas Jefferson et al)
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To: EternalVigilance

Mitt = RINO


14 posted on 10/16/2006 3:32:33 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: newzjunkey

And what will you say if he ends up getting the nomination? The 2008 race is wide open on both sides, with no sitting VP making a run after a 2-term presidency. This is going to fun to watch.


15 posted on 10/16/2006 3:34:57 AM PDT by medscribe
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To: medscribe
"This is going to fun to watch."

But what about to live? Will it be "fun" to live???

16 posted on 10/16/2006 1:30:42 PM PDT by jackibutterfly (.)
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