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Secret Service questions California teen over threats to Bush posted on her MySpace page
AP - San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | October 14, 2006 | Don Thompson

Posted on 10/15/2006 3:31:37 PM PDT by calcowgirl

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To: Melas
Yeah, she should be languishing away in prison. That will certainly set everything right. My disgust is reaching ever new heights these days.

If the picture was of Hillary or Bill, she would have lost her freedom by now.

It's a political double-standard.

121 posted on 10/15/2006 7:42:42 PM PDT by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: goldstategop
Why?

Because the law requires that every threat be investigated. If you don't like the law then you go to your Congress-critter and tell him that you want the law changed so that the Secret Service will not investigate all threats.

At the same time I'll go to the legislature and have your state laws changed so that the cops are directed to only respond to half the complaints of crimes and accidents.

Seem fair to you ?

122 posted on 10/15/2006 7:42:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Melas

"Yeah, she should be languishing away in prison. That will certainly set everything right. My disgust is reaching ever new heights these days."

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said anything about how prosecution should turn out, only that she should have been prosecuted.

You on the other hand believe that breaking the law, even when it is threatening to another person is ok if the person is_____ (fill in the blank). That is coddling of criminals.

If someone threatened your life would it be ok with you then? Or would you think about it more seriously?


123 posted on 10/15/2006 7:43:57 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: calcowgirl; goldstategop

AFter thoroughly investigating this young lady she seems pretty much in the line of Squeaky Fromme.


124 posted on 10/15/2006 7:44:18 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: calcowgirl

Remember the lady that made some remark about klinton and was subsequently arrested?


125 posted on 10/15/2006 7:45:51 PM PDT by lawdude (Bill Clinton is a virus and should be treated as such.)
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To: tobyhill

"I don't think any agent would arbitrarily tell the girl or parents that the Secret Service will destroy or erase an investigation file either. The file maybe closed but it ain't goin nowhere."

I agree. Especially after a threat on the life of the President that was published on the internet so it could have provoked others. That file will not be erased.

Don't be surprised if this girls name comes up in the future, possibly on a different subject.


126 posted on 10/15/2006 7:46:17 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: SoldierDad
I suspect she misses the stories coming out of Iraq about Saddam having people tossed in plastic shredding machines.

Regular Manson type person.

127 posted on 10/15/2006 7:46:23 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
At the same time I'll go to the legislature and have your state laws changed so that the cops are directed to only respond to half the complaints of crimes and accidents.

Here in New Castle County Delaware they do that already...I think the record is more in the line of 25% response. 50% would be an improvement.

128 posted on 10/15/2006 7:54:42 PM PDT by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: muawiyah

Or a young Bernadine Dohrn, perhaps?


129 posted on 10/15/2006 8:09:25 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
 
 
Myself, I'm curious if anyone ever went after the notorious "Johnny Wizard" - this person or persons would sign up on forums all around the net and post some of the worst murder screeds I believe I've seen around the internet. This character wanted the President if not most of his cabinet dead  - http://www.google.com/search?q=johnny+wizard . And what's even worse is that this "Wizard" even has admirers.
 
 

130 posted on 10/15/2006 8:59:26 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too! http://www.dianairey.com)
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To: NordP

this is more information concerning this story:

quote: "The group that got her in trouble was called something like "People who want to stab Bush" -- Julia said she doesn't remember the exact name because she soon changed it.

After an eighth-grade history lesson in which she learned that threatening the president is against the law, Julia said she changed the group name to "So Bush is an idiot but hey what else is new?"

http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/38768.html



131 posted on 10/15/2006 9:13:53 PM PDT by sasha123
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
You on the other hand believe that breaking the law, even when it is threatening to another person is ok if the person is_____ (fill in the blank). That is coddling of criminals.

No, but I do believe the seriousness of the threat is indeed a pertinant element in this equation. Quite frankly, I don't believe her threat had any merit at all. It was in effect nothing more than a teenager over-emoting as teenagers are fond of doing.

132 posted on 10/15/2006 9:24:57 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: pray4liberty
If the picture was of Hillary or Bill, she would have lost her freedom by now. It's a political double-standard.

Surely we haven't sunk so low that Clintonian abuses of power are now our guide? Who cares how Hill and Bill did it, because they are most certainly the last people we want to emulate.

133 posted on 10/15/2006 9:27:18 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: LisaMalia; Melas
Squeaky Fromm looked pretty innocent too.

Ah, not really.. dressed in a monks cowl and with her swastika scar on her forehead her innocence was somewhat hard to find. I had to kick her out of the gun shop I managed in Sacramento at least once a week... this occurred weekly before she took the potshot at President Ford.

However, Melas is missing the point. How is the Secret Service to know that this 14 year old is (1) fourteen, (2) not a real threat to the President, and (3) someone they can safely ignore without talking to her.

What is also missing from these reports is that this interview occurred just before President Bush made several appearances in the Central Valley including Stockton, Sacramento, and El Dorado Hills. The Secret Service is charge with assuring the President's safety... and that includes interviewing ANYBODY that has made a threat when the President is going to be in the area where those threateners reside.

134 posted on 10/15/2006 11:40:41 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Melas
Well, for starters, I wouldn't have dealt so much with the little punk, I would have demoralized the parents.

I'm just a little 'ol citizen of this great Country--who's paying for those SS guys to be there. And, as their employer, I can stand up for my Country's behalf with a bit more spirit.

135 posted on 10/16/2006 6:58:58 AM PDT by NordP (America: There are more Patriots than Punks!)
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To: muawiyah

Oh, but that type of treatment of "those people" are okay for the libs in this country. It is only when our government (read - Republicans) become involved that it becomes a problem for them. Libs have zero morals when it comes to their behavior or the behavior of despotic regimes in other countries (as witnessed by the Libs sharing company with Castro and Chavez).


136 posted on 10/16/2006 7:49:15 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 10th Mountain Division 2nd BCT Soldier fighting in Mahmudiyah)
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To: Melas
You made my point for me. She was not arrested, nor prosecuted, just questioned.

As for the parents not being present, I have my own issues with that, but I'm willing to bet that there is some arcane federal statute that exempts the Secret Service from Constitutional strictures during an investigation. I'm sure if the ACLU digs hard enough, and deep enough, they will find it...and it would probably go way back into the Clinton-Reno-jackboot-thugs era.

It's also a valid point that the Secret Service had no choice but to check her out, since anybody could pose as a 14 year old online.

The mother made a big mistake by not going to the school directly when the Secret Service showed up at her door first. I would have. She handled it by text-messaging her daughter and then bellyached that she wasn't present. What the heck did she think they were going to do? Bring the kid flowers?

137 posted on 10/16/2006 8:47:28 AM PDT by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: Melas

"No, but I do believe the seriousness of the threat is indeed a pertinant element in this equation. Quite frankly, I don't believe her threat had any merit at all. It was in effect nothing more than a teenager over-emoting as teenagers are fond of doing."

I used to be a teenager and I used to know a lot of rowdy teens. I have never met one that did something this extreme.

I still say you are the type that coddles criminals, that is why some will never learn to stop being criminals.


138 posted on 10/16/2006 3:59:01 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: calcowgirl




Secret Service questions California teen over threats to Bush posted on her MySpace page


Thank God! little girls in california are SERIOUS national security threats!

far more threatening than the prospect of terrorists strolling accross our southern border with a "suitcase nuke" under an arm


139 posted on 10/16/2006 4:04:09 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (DeWine ranked as one of the ten worst border security politicians - Human Events)
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
I still say you are the type that coddles criminals

Your speculations about me personally are without relevance, so I don't see why you bother posting them. Surely we can have a discussion without becoming personal. At least I know that I'm able to do so.

140 posted on 10/16/2006 5:40:42 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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