Absurd idea to arm teachers puts state on the spot again

Capital Times ^ | 10-15-06 | Joel McNally

[Bernard]

If our society is going to arm any adult on school grounds other than police officers, I vote for the janitors. The point of arming somebody would be to protect the children on the campus, and that requires somebody ready willing and able to use a weapon properly when the situation calls for it.

Teachers are too full of mushy educational theory to be of any value in a crisis.

[SJackson]

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Seems to me Joel McNally is putting Wisconsin "on the spot". A gross exaggeration, the nation doesn't care Joel.

But to my knowledge, he misrepresents the issue. It isn't arming all teachers, rather allowing those teachers who are qualified and willing to take on the responsibility to be armed. It's common sense. My guess McNally would be happy to have armed security guards in schools. If so, I'm willing to hold teachers to the same hiring and training standards as armed security guards.

[coydog]

Would this guy rather that schools continue to be killing fields for psychos?

The Israelis armed their teachers (and some students) for a reason. It worked.

[JRandomFreeper]

So do we really want to arm the gym teacher who takes sadistic pleasure in humiliating the kids who can't keep up? If we give him a loaded gun, is he going to make the fat kid dance?

Somebody has some issues....

/johnny

[swmobuffalo]

"So do we really want to arm the gym teacher who takes sadistic pleasure in humiliating the kids who can't keep up? If we give him a loaded gun, is he going to make the fat kid dance?

Somebody has some issues...."

That's obvious. The writer is afraid of guns and seems to be comfortable with idea of just allowing armed predators to slaughter children and nobody fights back.

[rellimpank]

--But to my knowledge, he misrepresents the issue. It isn't arming all teachers, rather allowing those teachers who are qualified and willing to take on the responsibility to be armed. It's common sense--

--you have hit the nail on the head. Mc Nally-as with anybody associated with the Captimes--is incapable of facing the truth--

[JRandomFreeper]

I expect that his therapist can put the kids through college and pay for the boat, though....

/johnny

[John123]

The Israelis armed their teachers (and some students) for a reason. It worked.

Yeah? Well go on, don't leave us hanging... What happened and how did the armed teachers respond?

And it just occured to me -- Israel has compulsary military duty so all the adult teachers know how to handle a gun and probably have been in combat whereas the only combat situations the teachers in the States faced was probably arguing the merits of teaching our kids liberalism.

[Jeff Gordon]

Go ahead, you little creeps, make our day.

The mind of the liberal scares me.

[SJackson]

The Israelis armed their teachers (and some students) for a reason.

A simple reason, people want to harm your children, you defend them.

[cripplecreek]

I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself a question: What is 6 minus 5?

Guns as a teachers aid.

[pbmaltzman]

If we arm all our school teachers with deadly weapons, it should certainly put a stop to kids chewing gum and passing notes in homeroom.

Hey, if that's what it takes to get rid of the gum chewers, then I think a case could be made for everyone being armed! (sarc)

Seriously, though, as a person who hates gum chewing (and many of its practitioners), I've often wondered how the h3ll you get them to chew with their mouths closed, much less just get rid of the stuff. I can't stand the sight, the sound, or the smell of gum chewing.

It's alleged that the gum chewer can concentrate better from chewing his or her cud... however, many of the people in close proximity (or even not-so-close proximity) LOSE their concentration and are really bothered, because the gum chewers are so d@mned obnoxious about it.

And I say that not as a teacher, but as someone who dreads taking college classes anymore, and who dreads any form of public transportation (up to and including airplanes) because of these obnoxious @$$holes.

[kjo]

Your earlier idea about cats was better.

[Bob Mc]

"So do we really want to arm the gym teacher who takes sadistic pleasure in humiliating the kids who can't keep up?"

I don't understand. This person thinks the gym teacher is a sadistic SOB who would use a gun to humilate children. But that's OK, he can stick around, as long as we really don't give him a gun?

What twisted logic!

[Shooter 2.5]

We don't want to arm all the teachers.
Just some of the teachers.
Just the Republican teachers.

Say no to the NEA. Say yes to the NRA.

/s/

[SJackson]

Yeah? Well go on, don't leave us hanging... What happened and how did the armed teachers respond?... And it just occured to me -- Israel has compulsary military duty so all the adult teachers know how to handle a gun and probably have been in combat whereas the only combat situations the teachers in the States faced was probably arguing the merits of teaching our kids liberalism.

Two issues there. In Israel, schools were, and children and mothers still are, targets, but the terrorist attacks on schools stopped. Of course they moved to pizza parlors, restaurants places like that.

My guess most Israeli teachers haven't been in combat, but certainly they've served.

The issue isn't arming all teachers.

Personally, my standard would be security guards. Anyone qualified to be hired by a school district as an armed guard, those standards should be applied to teachers. If they qualify, what's the problem? If 5% of the teachers were armed, it would be a deterrant, but more important a force able to intervene.

We could go on to pilots, or bus drivers, or just you and me, but thus far America doesn't perceive that day to day threat.

[Sender]

Who knows how many tragic school shootings have been averted as a result of good teachers doing their jobs and taking an interest in the lives of their students?

The only line in this rambling screed that makes any sense.

[SJackson]

We don't want to arm all the teachers. Just some of the teachers.

See 17. The ones qualified, and willing. Which is likely a minority, which is all that is needed.

BTW, I know Democrats I'd be happy to see armed too.

[durasell]

Arm the teachers and watch your taxes go up to pay for the extra insurance.