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Straw refuses to back down as he faces constituents
The Daily Telegraph ^ | October 14, 2006 | Nigel Bunyan

Posted on 10/14/2006 2:05:34 AM PDT by MadIvan

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Jack Straw doesn't choose a brand of toilet paper without checking the polls; if he is a weathervane of politics, this indicates that the British public has had enough.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 10/14/2006 2:05:35 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Mrs Ivan; odds; DCPatriot; Texican; Watery Tart; Deetes; Barset; fanfan; LadyofShalott; Tolik; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 10/14/2006 2:05:54 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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Jack Straw doesn't choose a brand of toilet paper without checking the polls

LOL -- I was thinking the same thing as I read this.

Is Straw's district predominantly Muslim? I'm guessing it's not.

3 posted on 10/14/2006 2:27:04 AM PDT by browardchad
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It's 30% Muslim. His constituency has one of the highest concentration of Muslims in the country, if not the highest.

This outbreak of common sense from him is thus surprising, and he must be confident that the rest of his constituency is fed up.

Regards, Ivan

4 posted on 10/14/2006 2:28:50 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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It's 30% Muslim. His constituency has one of the highest concentration of Muslims in the country, if not the highest.

Interesting. How does that compare to Galloway's constituency?

5 posted on 10/14/2006 2:32:48 AM PDT by browardchad
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I think it's about the same.

Regards, Ivan

6 posted on 10/14/2006 2:33:58 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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Has Galloway had anything to say about Straw's remarks?


7 posted on 10/14/2006 2:38:41 AM PDT by browardchad
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Perhaps he could loan some tissue samples so we could clone some testes for our politicians.
8 posted on 10/14/2006 2:40:29 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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If he has, I haven't heard about it. There was an Islamic spokeswoman for Galloway's "Respect" Party who appeared on BBC who denounced Straw, but that's about it.

Regards, Ivan

9 posted on 10/14/2006 2:41:08 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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If he has, I haven't heard about it. There was an Islamic spokeswoman for Galloway's "Respect" Party who appeared on BBC who denounced Straw, but that's about it.

Probably the honor among thieves politicians rule. 

Just as a matter of personal comfort, these Muslim women have got to be incredibily uncomfortable. On a lunch hour dash to  the supermarket yesterday,  there was a Muslim couple at a distant checkout counter -- she was a nearly obese woman with a long, drab heavy coat and head scarf, while he was dressed appropriately for 90-degree weather (still summer in Florida). I was uncomfortable just making the short trip out of air-conditioning  in the noontime sun, and can only imagine the body heat generated by that woman's outfit, which seems to be the standard ugly get-up among those I've seen. Add a full veil to the costume and they've got to be candidates for heat stroke.

10 posted on 10/14/2006 3:26:31 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: MadIvan
I have taken to watching this streamed TV station. If you like it pass it on to any others interested in UK news.
http://www.18doughtystreet.com/blog/
You can watch it live or on replay streaming.
It's so hard to get a handle on what is actually going on that this is looking like a darn good idea!
11 posted on 10/14/2006 3:51:35 AM PDT by Uriah_lost (M.I.E. Mainer In Exile I'll come back when the Massholes go home.)
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""If he carries on there will be feuds in Blackburn. The Christians who get on well with us now will start to hate us.""

START??????????


12 posted on 10/14/2006 4:13:31 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: UKRaddell

ping


13 posted on 10/14/2006 4:14:30 AM PDT by AliVeritas (If there were no God, there would be no Atheists.)
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I was ill yesterday and didn't see the Straw report 'til very late. I found it fascinating that some over there, including some more tolerant Muslim women themselves, were analyzing the "veil" situation as a "lack of fairness and civility" (my word choice) issue.

Pointing out that these people insist everyone do business with them and treat them properly when ALL is covered but their eyes. While at the same time they are able to look upon others and really SEE them. LOL A very perceptive point, but the more extreme Muslims don't care about anyone or anything but their religion coming out on top. That's their whole deal.

Reason and fairness mean something ONLY in a pluralistic, mutually tolerant society.


14 posted on 10/14/2006 4:29:46 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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He left to applause from shoppers in the main square and only peremptory barracking from anti-war protesters.
I think the writer meant "perfunctory." Picky, picky . . .

Of course the writer refers to quisling ism as "antiwar." Everyone is antiwar . . . but not everyone finds it possible to accept peace with everyone else. And when that happens, quislings self righteously proclaim that only they are virtuous because they are "antiwar."


15 posted on 10/14/2006 4:38:28 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: MadIvan

why back down...just wait a few years until the muzzies are in complete control....then he will just lose his head!!!

just more from the religion of peace & tolerence!!!


16 posted on 10/14/2006 5:42:36 AM PDT by hnj_00
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'Jack Straw doesn't choose TP without checking the polls.' Ivan, that is good to hear, gives me a teeny bit of hope. I am heartened indeed by leaders daring to speak the Truth. Better late than never.


17 posted on 10/14/2006 7:20:31 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: browardchad

Those get-ups have to be hot and uncomfortable. And I don't think for a minute that the WOMEN are fighting for them. The men run those marriages. For all we know, the Muslim women might secretly cheer if veils were outlawed.


18 posted on 10/14/2006 7:22:51 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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Jack Straw doesn't choose a brand of toilet paper without checking the polls; if he is a weathervane of politics,

Hmmmm, sounds like kerry.

19 posted on 10/14/2006 8:36:05 AM PDT by processing please hold
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Straw refuses to back down as he faces constituents

Well, bloody hell, I'm astonished. I find myself admiring a Labour politician? Merciful heavens!

There has been a major shift in British public opinion regarding Muslims and their separation from mainstream British life. The idiot that barracked John Reid for 'daring to come to a Muslim area' has pushed the boundaries, I think.

20 posted on 10/14/2006 2:27:43 PM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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