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Is Israel in America’s Interest?
FrontPage Magazine ^ | 13OCT06 | Martin Kramer

Posted on 10/13/2006 4:13:35 AM PDT by familyop

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To: No Blue States

Thank you.


41 posted on 10/13/2006 6:12:16 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Religion of peace my arse - We need a maintenance Crusade)
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To: familyop

For later read.


42 posted on 10/13/2006 6:12:28 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Always Right

So do I; Israel's existance is so precarious, you have to cut 'em some slack.


43 posted on 10/13/2006 6:12:54 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Why can't you answer a simple question?

Is the Old Testament literally true for us today? Yes or No?


44 posted on 10/13/2006 6:13:03 AM PDT by Jack2006
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To: Jack2006

The answers have been provided.


45 posted on 10/13/2006 6:18:07 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Religion of peace my arse - We need a maintenance Crusade)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
The answers have been provided.

The fact you cannot answer Yes or No, to a simple question of whether the Old Testament is literally true for the modern world answers my question.

46 posted on 10/13/2006 6:21:19 AM PDT by Jack2006
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To: Jack2006

I don't think God cares about nation-states - only people.



You, sir, are mistaken.

Genesis 12:1-3
"Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed."


And BTW, the fulfillment of the law by the Redeemer does not buy the redeemed any right to ignore being obedient out of love.

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" (2 Tim 3:16)

There is no exclusion of the Old Testament.


47 posted on 10/13/2006 6:29:44 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Jack2006; WorkerbeeCitizen

Is the Old Testament literally true for us today? Yes or No?



What problems in our society exist today that would not if teachings of the OT were adhered to?


48 posted on 10/13/2006 6:35:24 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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The Bible, can we trust it?

http://www.raptureready.com/rr-bible.html

An interesting read for those who have doubts.


49 posted on 10/13/2006 6:39:53 AM PDT by No Blue States
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An online Bible, searchable by any word, topic or passage:

http://www.biblegateway.com/

:)


50 posted on 10/13/2006 6:46:45 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: No Blue States

And even for those of us who trust....


51 posted on 10/13/2006 6:47:29 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: azhenfud

Can you answer the question though?

Is the Old Testament literally true for the modern world? Yes or No?

Is anyone solid enough in their faith to answer a very simple question?


52 posted on 10/13/2006 6:48:06 AM PDT by Jack2006
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To: No Blue States

I like this one too.

http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/kjv/


53 posted on 10/13/2006 6:48:30 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Your welcome.

Like many here I would support Israel anyway due to the fact that they are a democratic ally in the middle east.


54 posted on 10/13/2006 6:49:00 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: RoadTest
Also Israel is our only real friend on the planet.I am convinced she would die for us just as surely as we would die for her, if push ever comes to shove.
55 posted on 10/13/2006 6:50:31 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell ( Stock up on Kleenex,you cry baby Dems. The Mother of all @$$ kickings is coming to you.)
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To: Jack2006

As I stated, What problems exist in our society today that would not if we adhered to its teachings? the answer is many, so the OT teaching IS applicable - YES - it's just we WILL NOT and thus we reap the consequence.


56 posted on 10/13/2006 6:52:37 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Jack2006

The entire Bible is true.

Should we stone adulterers today? No, they were under the Law, we are under Grace ever since Jesus rose from the dead, provided we trust in Him.

I get the impression you are not trying to understand the issue, but only argue against it.

"Is anyone solid enough in their faith to answer a very simple question?"

Are you solid enough in your doubts to die without fear?


57 posted on 10/13/2006 6:55:08 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: azhenfud
As I stated, What problems exist in our society today that would not if we adhered to its teachings? the answer is many, so the OT teaching IS applicable - YES - it's just we WILL NOT and thus we reap the consequence.

So you believe the Old Testament is literally true? Okay thanks for answering the question.

Now, if that is true, then do you support killing those who commit adultery and homosexuals as God commands in the Olt Testament?

The point of this (in case anyone forgets) is that many on here are taking American foreign policy from this very book. If it is true on Israel, it is true for all things. It it is not true for all things, then the Israel policy from the Bible could be wrong too.

58 posted on 10/13/2006 6:58:13 AM PDT by Jack2006
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To: No Blue States

So you agree that there are parts of the Old testament no longer relevant to us after Jesus? Thank-You!


59 posted on 10/13/2006 7:08:33 AM PDT by Jack2006
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To: familyop

If we are heading toward Armageddon, abandoning our friends is not going to keep us from going there. If we are not heading toward Armageddon, why would we abandon our friends?


60 posted on 10/13/2006 7:13:35 AM PDT by claudiustg (Iran delenda est.)
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