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To: Iconoclast2
The Klamath has been on its way down for many years and I resent it that you think that the "Indians" are the problem. Your statement sucks for more than one reason. First, you can not run boats around on the surface of the river and "herd salmon" down below. That is false and stupid. You may have seen some Indians hot rodding around but they were not "herding" fish. Second, it matters not that you may have seen a few Indians catching more than their share. The fact is that we (I am a Yurok born and raised there, matter of fact if you were on the beach at the mouth of the river you were on my land. Not the tribes, I mean MY land. I and my family own that sand spit.) have a quota and no matter what Indian catches how many fish, when the quota is met we are through for the year, and the river is shut down to us.

You better do a little better home work next time you want to take up a subject. If you have any questions I will try to answer them for you. Also in your previous post: where can you buy fresh west coast Chinook or Silver salmon for $4.99 a pound. That my friend is impossible. That died red Atlantic salmon is going for $6 to $10 a lb. in the stores I saw it in and there was NO local salmon at all to be found.

25 posted on 10/13/2006 12:42:06 AM PDT by fish hawk
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To: fish hawk

That $4.99 a pound caught my eye too. I was about to ask for directions.

The offshore Russian fishing fleet really clobbered our fish stock, but that ended years ago. I was very incensed to have russian trawlers cleaning out our salmon and harrasing the tanker I was navigating. 1970's


32 posted on 10/13/2006 9:11:17 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: fish hawk

Two or three weeks ago, our local Safeway stores (Portland) were selling what they called "wild coho" for $4.99/lb., which I noticed because the prices have been generally higher all summer. I presume it came off the West Coast . . . are there coho down in Chile? That would be the only other source I could think of.


37 posted on 10/13/2006 12:53:12 PM PDT by Iconoclast2 (Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .)
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To: fish hawk

And I don't "think that the 'Indians' are THE problem". They plainly overfished fall chinook for a while; now the harvests are reduced. The Klamath salmon runs were on the rise for many years, and are down the last couple. Suction dredge mining on the river probably helps them by increasing available spawning and other habitat. The people who drive the boats think they are herding the salmon into the nets, and I presume they do it because it works. Maybe not. I have seen videos of it.

The real problem is that "the Indians", loosely speaking, have been exploited by a bunch of lying environmentalists and corrupt Tribal leaders who have set them at odds with the Klamath farmers who, as a practical matter, have absolutely zero effect on the lives of the Indians. More people ought to listen to Russell Means as to the real nature of the enemy:

http://www.geocities.com/robertofotografie/


38 posted on 10/13/2006 1:10:32 PM PDT by Iconoclast2 (Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .)
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