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Governors Schwarzenegger and Kulongoski Direct State Agencies to Hold a Klamath Summit
Gov. Schwarzenegger's Office ^ | October 12, 2006 | Press Release

Posted on 10/12/2006 9:18:57 PM PDT by calcowgirl

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To: DoughtyOne
I didn't coin this perception, but when property rights go, along go the rest of your rights.

That was John Adams:

"The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. Property must be sacred or liberty cannot exist."
41 posted on 10/13/2006 3:05:26 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Iconoclast2
That would be the only other source I could think of.

Alaska and Russia.

42 posted on 10/13/2006 3:07:04 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: DoughtyOne
About the only way to stop this nonsense, is to shrink government until it hasn't the staff to dabble it's fingers into everyone's business. And while we're at it, the land conservencies and NGOs should be defunded, liquidated and the land sold off to "INDIVIDUALS".

Here, HERE! Super-BUMP!

These massive land conservancies operate like drunken sailors who answer to no one.

And are more than happy to live off your taxes!

43 posted on 10/13/2006 3:11:06 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: DoughtyOne
About the only way to stop this nonsense, is to shrink government until it hasn't the staff to dabble it's fingers into everyone's business.

Or facilitate the institution of a profitable competitor.

44 posted on 10/13/2006 3:14:43 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Carry_Okie; DoughtyOne
I'm sure glad to see you here! I can't recall my memorized ping list from the summer of '01 and I know of several who aren't here any more, even some who are pushin up daisys and can't help revive the effort against the relentless, remorseless, ruthless people that keep trying to drive out these great American farmers of K. Falls!!!

Now our stupid Governor is going to try to stick it to 'em! Geeze!!!

45 posted on 10/13/2006 3:16:17 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: Carry_Okie; DoughtyOne; Iconoclast2
I'm sure glad to see you here! I can't recall my memorized ping list from the summer of '01 and I know of several who aren't here any more, even some who are pushin up daisys and can't help revive the effort against the relentless, remorseless, ruthless people that keep trying to drive out these great American farmers of K. Falls!!!

Now our stupid Governor is going to try to stick it to 'em! Geeze!!!

46 posted on 10/13/2006 3:16:57 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: Carry_Okie

The fish were only two weeks late this fall(early to mid August was peak of the second run reds). Shouldn't take that long to get fish to America from Alaska.


47 posted on 10/13/2006 3:29:15 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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To: SierraWasp
I know, you love Schwartzenegger's Sierra-Nevada CONservancy, too. You and I've been over that assinine action by the goofed-up Governator, too!!!

No we haven't. I didn't vote for Schwartzenegger, I voted for McClintock. I didn't support the Conservancy and I don't support the nonsense that is happening on the Klamath. This is all smoke and mirrors to avoid the only solution to our energy problem on the west coast...nuclear!

Put that in your pipe and shove it!
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48 posted on 10/13/2006 3:35:40 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: sergeantdave; Carry_Okie; DoughtyOne; Iconoclast2; All
Thank you sergeantdave. We do have a very strong open meeting law in CA! It's called the "Brown Act!" And you're right about these leftist using the Delfi System to isolate critics and they love to violate not only the open meeting laws, but many times the even stronger conflict of interest laws!

The MSM supports these leftist with the phony "consensus process" and helps drive the most devastating stuff right past the people... Even those being hurt most by it until it's too late to help them!!!

I sincerely wish that any FReepers that were either involved in any part of the Jarbidge, NV road re-opening or the Klamath Tea Party or the Bucket Brigade here on FR, even if you just lurked or actually showed up would check in on this thread to contribute thoughts, prayers, or even actions!

We all knew when 9-11 rightfully sucked all the oxygen out of this issue that it would be back with all the remorseless, relentless, ruthless leftists pounding away at these righteous, actual victims who only want to be good productive Americans!!!

Excuse me. I have to step out for a couple of minutes to run to the store and buy a bag of Lays Potato Chips, grown in Klamath Falls!!!

49 posted on 10/13/2006 3:36:59 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: SierraWasp
"I think I'm gonna just HURL!!! This is a preliminary indicator of how hard this joker is gonna be to live under during the next four years... Mark My Words!!!"

Exactly. Just wait until this european jackass no longer has anything to fear from the voters. He's going to get worse; much, much worse. It's going to be Arnold Angelides...

50 posted on 10/13/2006 3:39:08 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Jeff Head

* ping *


51 posted on 10/13/2006 3:41:12 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: B4Ranch
I noticed that Commie word "sustainability" in the Oregone Governor's statement you quoted. The biggest threat to "sustainability" to the Klamath Basin farmers is having their governments and Governors be turned against them to put them out of business by claiming after all these years that now the farmers are cheating the salmon out of a fair share of water! What a monstrous PANT-LOAD!!!

Any plan to re-balance the needs are simply designed to starve the farmers of water and rights to it that they bought and paid for and thereby own and control by law. Now these CONsensus seeking snakes are going to try to steal their legal control by over-riding the law with supposed environmental "CONcerns" and pure Hollywood generated/created emotionalism!!!

52 posted on 10/13/2006 3:49:46 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: FairOpinion

What a fantastic and entirely appropriate find!!! I congratulate you, FairOpinion!!! For you to find your Governor's press release being picked up by the People's Weekly World web-site and heralded by this authentic Commie web-site as a "Victory for Klamath River Salmon" is especially ripe, coming from the most vociferous screamer for Schwartzenegger on FreeRepublic.com!!! Geeeze!!! OMG!!!


53 posted on 10/13/2006 3:56:05 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: Czar; FairOpinion
"It's going to be Arnold Angelides..."

Hey! That's perfect!!!

54 posted on 10/13/2006 4:00:41 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: backhoe; snopercod
Thank you very much! Unfortunately it only goes back through 2002 and doesn't include the fantastic summer of 2001 FreeRepublic.com efforts along with the locals to turn back the barrage of brutal bungling by bureaucrats and assinine activists to strangle the very livings of great American Farmers!!!

I noticed one post in 2004 that exposed Schwartzenegger's bias toward the fishing industry and their bogus claims against the farmers regarding water use. I also notice a post in 2005 by snopercod... ARE YOU STILL OUT THERE SNOPERCOD???

55 posted on 10/13/2006 4:13:59 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: freepatriot32

Thanks for pingin your list! You graphic isn't makin it through my browser for some unknown reason... just the dreaded red "X" is all I see.


56 posted on 10/13/2006 4:28:42 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: SierraWasp

I've seen that problem with other categories from the old bump lists- they don't go back as far as I know they used to.

Found this:
Posted by snopercod to Calpernia; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
On News/Activism 06/20/2005

???


57 posted on 10/13/2006 4:38:47 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
Well, I found this from snopercod on you super-historic link!

Now I'm gonna go look for the 2004 post about Schwartzenrenegger bein all for the fishing industry and against the farmers position. That ought to make him one hell of an "honest broker!" (Yeah, right!)

58 posted on 10/13/2006 5:01:58 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: SierraWasp
I noticed that Commie word "sustainability" in the Oregone Governor's statement you quoted.

That line is kindergarten drivel compared to any phrase that contains "CONSENSUS BUILDING" as represented in the govs quotes...

59 posted on 10/13/2006 5:07:33 PM PDT by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: backhoe; AuntB; marsh2; Czar; Carry_Okie
This is the last post I know of from snopercod.

I can just see the 48pt headline on the Sacramento BEE...

SCHWARTZENEGGER
SINGLEHANDEDLY
SAVES LOST
SUCKERFISH!!!

60 posted on 10/13/2006 5:21:26 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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