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Former Weapons Inspector, Experts Warn Against Military Action Toward Iran [Is this the USA?]
Voice of America ^ | 12OCT06 | Dan Robinson

Posted on 10/12/2006 6:31:08 PM PDT by familyop

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Experts are urging the Bush administration to use patience and caution in its approach to Iran over its nuclear ambitions.  The comments by former U.S. weapons inspector David Kay and others at an event on Capitol Hill Wednesday came as President Bush and other officials reiterated a call for Iran to end its uranium enrichment efforts and reach a peaceful and negotiated solution. 

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David Kay (file photo)
David Kay, who has been critical of the Bush administration's faulty pre-war intelligence on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, says Washington needs to proceed cautiously because serious questions remain about its ability to assess realities on the ground in Iran.

While the government in Tehran has established what he calls "a substantial foundation" for a nuclear weapons program, Kay asserts any serious threat is at least five years and possibly 10 or more years away.

"Iran does not today, and in my judgment will not for some time, pose a nuclear threat to the United States or the state of the [Middle East] region," Kay said.

Assuming Iran's government has or does proceed with a weapons program, Kay says it will find the process long and expensive, presenting many negotiating opportunities.

However, Kay and others, citing media reports in recent months, worry that some officials in the Bush administration may be pressing for military action and regime change in Iran.

That would be a huge mistake, says Joseph Cirincione, another critic of the administration approach on Iran.

He asserts the impasse with North Korea, which now claims to have tested a nuclear weapon, underscores the need for a different course with regard to Iran.

"The longer you wait, the higher the price of a deal and the greater the risk that you won't get any deal at all," Cirincione said. "If they conclude, like the North Koreans concluded, that there is no bargaining with these people, there is no satisfying, and there is a faction in Iran that believes this, that the administration has decided to change the regime."

Cirincione asserts a heated debate is under way within the administration, between supporters and opponents of military action against Iran.

Sam Gardiner, a retired U.S. Air Force Colonel and instructor at the National War College, has stirred controversy by spelling out in some detail what he believes is administration contingency planning if a decision were made to go ahead with a military strike.

"The next step on the table is to escalate this not to a ground operation, but to an air strike, which would probably in its initial stages be five nights,"  he said. "In those five nights we will attack the known nuclear facilities.  In addition to that we will attack some of the Iranian military capabilities."

Such a course, Gardiner predicts, would trigger numerous negative reactions, such as stepped up attacks on U.S. troops in Iraq, Iranian actions against shipping through the Strait of Hormuz, and Hezbollah action against Israel.

In response to recent media reports speculating about possible U.S. military action against Iran, U.S. officials have pointed out that contingency planning is routinely done at the Pentagon, but that no decisions regarding specific action against Iran have been made.  In addition, President Bush, as recently as Wednesday, has emphasized that he intends to pursue a diplomatic approach to Iran's nuclear ambitions.

In any case, several of the experts who participated in a Capitol Hill panel discussion Wednesday say the president would have great difficulty selling any major military action against Iran to Congress.

Dennis Kucinich
Dennis Kucinich (file photo)
Congressman Dennis Kucinich is a Democrat who organized the event.

"It would be the view of this member of Congress that this president would not have the ability to unilaterally order an attack, while we understand with the War Powers Act if he does order an attack anyway he still has to come back to Congress, but I think in this case given the gravity of it he would have to go to Congress first," he said.

Trita Parsi, president of the National Iranian American Council, says the U.S. needs to stop treating negotiations with Iran's government as, in his words, a concession or sign of weakness.

Military action, says Parsi, would merely result in the U.S. losing the battle for the hearts and minds of Iranians.

"If history is to repeat itself, as it so often does, then an attack on Iran would likely result in Iranians rallying around the flag, rather than people turning on their government as [former Iraqi dictator] Saddam thought they would," Parsi said.  "The Iranian government would strengthen its hold on the country rather than be toppled."

Though President Bush has underscored the need for patient diplomacy regarding Iran, he adds that no option has been taken off the table.

President Bush speaks during a news conference in the Rose Garden of the White House in Washington, Wednesday, Oct. 11, 2006
President Bush speaks during  news conference in Rose Garden of the White House, Oct. 11, 2006
In a news conference Wednesday, he said he continues to believe the U.S. needs to deal with Iran and North Korea "with more than one voice."

"The United States' message to North Korea and Iran and the people in both countries is that we have - we want to solve issues peacefully," Mr. Bush said.  "We said there's a better way forward for you. Here's a chance, for example, to help your country economically. And all you got to do is verifiably show that you - in Iran's case, that you suspended your weapons program."

Iran vowed Wednesday to continue its nuclear program, which it says is intended for peaceful purposes, not weaponry.  The U.S. and other permanent members of the U.N. Security Council are working to develop possible sanctions because of Tehran's defiance of calls to suspend its nuclear enrichment activities.







TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: balkans; caligula; davidkay; iran; rome; scottritter; vespasian
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Those are not voices of America. Maybe they're voices of old Europe or Ancient Rome. Why didn't the author just go all-out and channel Vespasian's and Hitler's opinions? And we're paying taxes to fund VOA.

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1 posted on 10/12/2006 6:31:09 PM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop

...another opinion.

US General: Strikes on Iran possible by 2007
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1718022/posts


2 posted on 10/12/2006 6:34:17 PM PDT by familyop ("G-d is on our side because he hates the Yanks." --St. Tuco, in the "Good, the Bad, and the Ugly")
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To: familyop

All the links to prove we should have left Iraq and secular Saddam alone.


3 posted on 10/12/2006 6:36:32 PM PDT by ivy
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To: familyop

They're simply prepping for the reviews on Scott Ritter's new Book, "Target Iran."

Don't forget Ritter, who is one of the leaders of the anti-war movement, told everyone Bush had plans on the table to bomb Iran in June 2005.


4 posted on 10/12/2006 6:39:09 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: ivy

"David Kay, who has been critical of the Bush administration's faulty pre-war intelligence on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, says Washington needs to proceed cautiously because serious questions remain about its ability to assess realities on the ground in Iran."

You mean there really weren't WMD in Iraq and Bush lied about it? But what of those 500+ WMD's that were found? They don't count?


5 posted on 10/12/2006 6:40:37 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Murtha is even cutting and running from a debate.)
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To: familyop
Well Mr. Kay, what do you suggest if N. Korea ships Iran a bit of fissile material?

How many weeks away from possessing a nuclear bomb would Iran be upon receipt of THAT package Mr. Kay?
6 posted on 10/12/2006 6:41:35 PM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: ivy

Attacking Saddam was fine so long as there was a plan to move on to Iran next (and Syria if necessary). IF we would topple those two next there are no overtly troublesome governments left in the Middle East.


7 posted on 10/12/2006 6:42:45 PM PDT by Williams
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Now how stupid is the Kay statement? We KNOW Iran has a full fledged nuclear program, they announce their intention to continue it every day.


8 posted on 10/12/2006 6:43:59 PM PDT by Williams
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To: familyop

Blow them up now or blow them up later.

Or help regime change happen in both countries.

Those are the only three options.


9 posted on 10/12/2006 6:45:44 PM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: Williams
Attacking Saddam was fine so long as there was a plan to move on to Iran next (and Syria if necessary). IF we would topple those two next there are no overtly troublesome governments left in the Middle East.

Absolutely right. As a launching pad for really cleaning house in the region it's superb. As a place to dig-in, or as the end-game in and of itself, not so great.

LBT
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10 posted on 10/12/2006 6:46:49 PM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Al Qaeda needs to know we are fluent in the "dialogue of bullets.")
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To: familyop
"Iran does not today, and in my judgment will not for some time, pose a nuclear threat to the United States or the state of the [Middle East] region," Kay said.

So, if he's wrong...and 15 million die...what will he say..."Sorry?"

11 posted on 10/12/2006 6:49:30 PM PDT by gogeo (Irony is not one of Islam's core competencies (thx Pharmboy))
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Congressman Dennis Kucinich is a Democrat who organized the event.


Pretty much sums up the whole direction of the event; AntiAmerican, AntiBush, and everything is our fault.
12 posted on 10/12/2006 6:49:44 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Diplomacy doesn't work when seagulls rain on your parade. A shotgun and umbrella does.)
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To: G Larry

...related article.

S. Korean Lawmaker, "Russia might have given N. Korea know-how of miniature nukes"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1717327/posts


13 posted on 10/12/2006 6:49:49 PM PDT by familyop ("The Jews have done more to civilize men than any other nation..." --President John Adams)
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He asserts the impasse with North Korea, which now claims to have tested a nuclear weapon, underscores the need for a different course with regard to Iran.

But we haven't attacked North Korea. A course of action different from the incessant conferences, posturings, and walkouts that typified the diplomatic approach to North Korea would, in fact, be the direct attack they're warning agains.

In truth, this approach has failed in North Korea and will fail with Iran as well. Kucinich and Kay seem to think we've something to negotiate with. We haven't. We can offer tribute until the other parties find it more advantageous to fight but that's about it. That form of buying time always turns out to be a lot more expensive in the long run and the "peace" it purchases is an illusion.

14 posted on 10/12/2006 6:49:51 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: ivy
Should I care about what those who would attend a meeting held by Dennis Kucinich think? He who wanted to create a "Department of Peace?"

This guy is a certified nutbar.

15 posted on 10/12/2006 6:51:23 PM PDT by gogeo (Irony is not one of Islam's core competencies (thx Pharmboy))
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To: sageb1
The Burger King was just on the O'Reilly Factor and he is just as creepy and treacherous as ever. Scotty says he just got back from Iran, and that the mullahs can't wait to sit down and talk with Condi...black infidel woman who dares speak to men. Oh, and BTW, those nukes are for energy purposes.

Bill batted him around a little, but the real hoot was the Nutty Professor, a 9/11 tinfoil whack job, and Bill was priceless! The aliens took Elvis!
16 posted on 10/12/2006 6:52:34 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: familyop
The Voice of America does often broadcast views differing from the U.S. Government view. You might be offended by this until you realize that for much of their target audience in Asia and Africa, the idea that an opposition person can speak without being arrested, let alone appear on the U.S. government radio, is subversive in itself. Propaganda need not be heavy-handed; often the truth suffices. Compare this to Cuba's Radio Habana or Gramma or the Korean Central News Agency, or to the jamming of radio signals by China, Burma, and Zimbwabe, and you see that VoA is doing a fair, if not perfect job.
17 posted on 10/12/2006 6:55:39 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: familyop
That would be a huge mistake, says Joseph Cirincione, another critic of the administration approach on Iran.

Cirincione is the voice of Soros (Center for American Progress)

18 posted on 10/12/2006 7:16:29 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: familyop

if you are going to try and fight a war without hurting anyone... why even consider it


19 posted on 10/12/2006 7:19:47 PM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: gusopol3
"Cirincione is the voice of Soros (Center for American Progress)"

...which is a voice of old southern and eastern Europe. Soros is apparently assimilated.
20 posted on 10/12/2006 7:23:35 PM PDT by familyop ("The Romans and their Empire were but a bauble in comparison to the Jews." --President John Adams)
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