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Armenia genocide bill may worsen France-Turkey relations
EarthTimes ^ | 10/12/06 | Pat Fryer

Posted on 10/12/2006 6:35:51 AM PDT by XR7

PARIS: Lawmakers in France approved a bill Thursday introducing fines and prison sentences to those who deny that the killing of Armenians by Ottoman Turks during and after World War 1 amounted to genocide.

Deputies in the National Assembly, France's lower house of Parliament, voted 106-19 favoring the bill, which recognizes the killings of about 1.5 million Armenians from 1915 to 1919 as genocide and imposes a fine of 45,000 euros and a year in prison on those denying it.

Senators from the upper house will now consider the bill, which upon passage, will go before president Jacque Chirac. The bill was introduced by the opposition Socialists.

The country had passed a law in 2001 classifying the Armenian killings as genocide. The proposed legislation intends to make it a crime to deny that genocide.

Armenia contends that Turkey had massacred Armenians during World War I, when Armenia was under the Ottoman Empire. Turkey maintains the Armenians were killed in civil unrest as the empire collapsed.

The vote prompted reactions in Turkey, which is now trying to join European Union. Its chief negotiator in European Union membership talks Ali Babacan said Thursday the French bill flew in the face of freedom of expression. He said it is violating one of the core principles of the European Union.

The Turkish government had approved the launch of a study by scientists and historians into the genocide theory and Babacan said Ankara would accept the conclusion of the study.

A ruling party lawmaker in France, Patrick Devedjian, said the government of Turkish prime minister Recep Erdogan, who has sharply criticized the bill, had adopted a law that punishes the admission of a genocide with time in prison in Turkey.

Turkey's foreign ministry said the relations between the two countries, developed over centuries, have been dealt a blow with the bill. It termed the bill as irresponsible false claims of French politicians, who do not see the political consequences of their actions.

In Brussels, the European Commission said the passage of the bill will hamper reconciliation between Turkey and Armenia.

EU officials had warned French legislators not to go ahead with their proposal, arguing it could throw already sensitive EU entry talks with Turkey into crisis.

There could be an immediate repercussion. European aircraft maker EADS's Eurocopter unit has been trying to sell military helicopters worth hundreds of millions of euros to Turkey. Observers in Turkey now say the chances of Eurocopter winning the deal are virtually nil.

Turkey could also bar French companies from bidding for state-owned assets, including nuclear power stations.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: croisade; moslems; ottomanempire; rop; turks
...the killing of Armenians by Ottoman Turks during and after World War 1 amounted to genocide.

They are finally figuring out that the R.O.P. is not really a R.O.P.?
Too bad.
France is already overrun by adherants of the R.O.P. and the frogs are becoming afraid of losing their own heads.

1 posted on 10/12/2006 6:35:51 AM PDT by XR7
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It's about time people recognized what really happened to the Aremenians.


2 posted on 10/12/2006 6:46:54 AM PDT by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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Lawmakers in France approved a bill Thursday introducing fines and prison sentences to those who deny that the killing of Armenians by Ottoman Turks during and after World War 1 amounted to genocide.

How are they going to force people to accept or to deny something? Now, I think the French government can make a lot of money if they introduce a bill that fine people who believe that 9/11 is the work of US government...

3 posted on 10/12/2006 6:47:02 AM PDT by paudio (Universal Human Rights and Multiculturalism: Liberals want to have cake and eat it too!)
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Can't you just picture this scenario:

A very Inspector Clouseau-esque Frencch police officer pulls you over for reckless driving, and right after he asks to see your driver's license, he asks you, "Do you deny the Armenian genocide was committed by the Ottoman Turks?"


4 posted on 10/12/2006 7:00:03 AM PDT by XR7
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To: mockingbyrd


5 posted on 10/12/2006 9:16:12 AM PDT by prognostigaator
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To: XR7; All
The Armenian Reality
6 posted on 10/12/2006 2:23:58 PM PDT by Turk2 (Dulce bellum inexpertis)
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The Armenian Question
7 posted on 10/12/2006 2:24:47 PM PDT by Turk2 (Dulce bellum inexpertis)
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So it was the brutal Armenians who were so mean and disloyal to the benevolent Muslim Turks, eh?
Never knew that.
8 posted on 10/13/2006 9:32:56 AM PDT by XR7
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To: Dajjal

ping.


9 posted on 10/13/2006 9:33:24 AM PDT by XR7
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No that it is not what I meant. By today's human rights standards, forcibly moving such a large group of people from one place to another is not acceptable. However, you must keep in mind that the relocation did not aim to destroy a minority, the aim was to move that portion of the population away from the Russian front to another part of the same country. The Armenian collaboration with Russians (the enemy) had reached unbearable proportions and the Armenians and locak Muslims were at eachothers' throats. What else could have been done?
10 posted on 10/15/2006 3:39:51 AM PDT by Turk2 (Dulce bellum inexpertis)
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The Armenian collaboration with Russians (the enemy) had reached unbearable proportions and the Armenians and locak Muslims were at eachothers' throats.

Just sounds screwy to me.
Based on recent history, I'd be more inclined to believe it was the Muslims who were into cutting everyone's throat.

11 posted on 10/15/2006 8:19:28 AM PDT by XR7
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Why would a country under the threat of invasion from all sides suddenly decide to move hundreds of thousands of its own people away from one region and carry them to another unless there was some hugely compelling reason?

Here's some background on the Ottoman form of government at the time.

25 lectures on Balkan history

12 posted on 10/15/2006 9:04:19 AM PDT by Turk2 (Dulce bellum inexpertis)
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25 Lectures on Balkan history
13 posted on 10/15/2006 9:05:39 AM PDT by Turk2 (Dulce bellum inexpertis)
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