[Sabramerican]

Even under your interpretation of the CT race, I don't know what it has to do with Rice's anti Israel statements made specifically at a PRO Palestinian organization having members we have all seen on TV being anti Israel and anti US.

Lieberman stands out as a Democrat who supports the Iraq war, for that he was targeted. Not because of his support for Israel- shared with many other Senators of either party.

This isn't about Democrats.

If you are saying that Rice and the Bush Administration feels it can spit in the face of the pro-Israel community, Jews, and Bush's base, Israel supporting Evangelical Christians, you may be right.

See also another thread about the Administration's attitude towards their base.

And then there is retirement looming in a couple of years and the Saudis know how to reward friends.

[Mamzelle]

re: This isn't about Democrats.))) Well, 76% of American Jews vote Democrat, and the DNC is less supportive of Israel every day. I don't hear much scolding of the Dems. The Dems are more and more owned by the Progressives, and controlled in a very startling way by George Soros, like he's cornering another currency market. The progressives don't seem to need to be drunk to be antisemite.

As for what it has to do with Rice, it goes back to the first question I posed. Without significant, vocal, unified support from American Jews, where will come the pro-Israel ideology and leadership in the US? Who's supposed to carry this responsibility?

If you thought all Leiberman's problems were about Iraq, you should have been reading more of Lamont's progressive backers.

With the antisemitism, the anti-Israelism that underpinned Leiberman's defeat, I assert that it is now politically safe to be anti-Israel. In my lifetime, it has never been politically safe to be anti-Israel in either party.

Whatever "spitting" is going on, it is now very probable that we have seen our last pro-Israel administration.