N929CD - 2002 Cirrus Design Corp SR20

[patton]

Me, I will (continue) to fly Cessna. I can do a spin recovery in 50' - in fact, I did it on my last checkride.

(Note I didn't mention HOW I spun a cessna on a checkride. LOL)

[GW and Twins Pawpaw]

Can't remember the guy's name who was killed during flight testing of the Cirrus. He was an former astronaut.

[Spktyr]

I won't fly Cessnas, given a choice - their attitude towards QC and design makes General Motors look good.

[patton]

Design? I don't think that they have changed it in 50 years.

Hmmmm....maybe you have a point.

[woodbutcher]

Oh come on!

I flew a Q Model 310 all over the country.

The same airplane for 23 years.

That after having owned several of the "perfect" airplanes.

I don't know anything about the singles, but that 310 was absolutely the most reliable airplane I had in 40 years.

No, the sheet metal was not perfect. The seats were hard. The upholstery was cheap, but it was a great airplane.

[Atlas Sneezed]

The pilot who commanded one the last successful flights of the space shuttle Challenger died Friday when the small test plane he was flying crashed.

Col. Robert Overmyer, was flying alone in the small-engine plane when it went down near Duluth International Airport at 12:30 P.M.

Colonel Overmyer, 59, was conducting tests on the VK30 prototype plane for manufacturer, Cirrus Design Corporation, which has a base in Duluth.

[Spktyr]

I'm talking about their singles. Their singles are flying piles, IMHO.

When Cessna started making the 172 again after that long hiatus, they didn't improve the design. They still used the same fire-prone wiring harness, still used the same archaic instruments, still didn't put an anticorrosion coat on a number of parts - and then charged an absurd amount of money for it.

[Spktyr]

He was testing the VK30 kit plane, not the SR20/22. The SR20 is a completely different beast.

[GW and Twins Pawpaw]

I did not know that. I thought he was flying a Cirrus model for flight certification.

[GW and Twins Pawpaw]

That's him!

[GW and Twins Pawpaw]

I sure did like my Bellanca Super Viking. Wish I still owned it.

[Starwolf]

I've owned a Grumman Tiger...3 turns into a spin and you are a test pilot. While the Cirrus is not a Cessna, you have lots of warning before you get in trouble.

[patton]

Never flown one. My experience is limited to various cessnas, the pipers (both the hershey bars and the cubs), and the C130 and C141.

(Don't ask. LOL)

[Seaplaner]

While the Cirrus is not a Cessna, you have lots of warning before you get in trouble.

True enough, however a few low-time pilots may still have the urge to "pull up" on the yoke when in a stall, esp at low altitudes.

It's a tragedy to be sure.

And it's a shame about some of the nonsense restrictions on capable pilots that are certain to be proposed so that some ignorant legislators can get some "face" time.

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[woodbutcher]

Amen.

Who is that idiot "Bo" somebody that was on Neil Cavuto show?

He was breathless. He could not talk fast enough about how it is an emergency that we need to pass rules to stop airplanes from flying in "unrestricted airspace" in NY, on and on and on.

What an ass.

Everyone should be on a flight plan.

How dangerous that these planes could carry explosives.....

I agree. Let us also pass a law that every single vehicle that goes through the Holland Tunnel must have a plan. Driver's name, license, destination, fuel on board, souls on board, time in route, home base, etc.

Every single vehicle. After all, just think how much explosive you can get in a Lexius, or heaven forbid one of those SUV's.

How can idiots get so much time on TV?????

[Dead Dog]

Far 23 pretty much outlaws interesting airplanes, much less "squirly" ones.

[Starwolf]

Story right now seems to be changing. First it was looking like a low time pilot got in over his head with some hot hardware. However, just saw something that said he had an instructor with him. If that is the case, it gets really interesting.

Tigers have lots of power and interesting stall charactertics as well. Unlike the C-150 I had taken my private in, you could power your way out of just about any situation. It gets you a little cocky. Instructor decided to cure me of it. On the way back from an IFR X-country, we paused to do a little stall work under the hood. On the last power on stall, he had me pull it way back. When it finally broke, I pushed the nose level to fly out of it as usual...the plane was sluggish, and the horn was still blaring...VSI was pegged going the wrong way. Finally popped the nose down got back some airspeed and flew out of it. All that horsepower had gotten me complacent.

[Doctor Raoul]

During a lesson on stalls, I accidentally spun a 152. After a few rotations, I put both hands up like I was being held at gunpoint and announced to the instructor, "You got it..."

[patton]

LOLOLOL - but, my good doctor, that is HOW you recover from a spin...stop flying. Let the aircraft fly itself.

(Oh, and throttle back so you don't overspin the engine, and kick opposite rudder when it stabalizes, and PULL UP!)

[patton]

1) Throttle back

2) Controlls to neutral

3) Backhand screaming passangers

4) Observe direction of rotation

5) Kick opposite rudder

6) Watch spin stop

7) PULL UP!

Used to do this to my buddies, after I took them on the "lunch ride..." LOL