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Really, Really Cheap Oil
Forbes.com ^ | Christopher Helman

Posted on 10/11/2006 9:39:13 AM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: Stat-boy
Stat-boy said: "The market for oil takes time to adjust, but the fact is that the market will adjust."

Traveling through the southwest last year my wife and I were entertained by the small wells pumping merrily along almost everywhere we went.

Low yielding wells require a storage tank at the wellhead and trucks to keep the tanks empty. Pipelines are far too expensive for such wells.

These low-yielding wells are all over the place and we never saw one that was not pumping. At $10 per barrel, it probably doesn't pay to send the trucks, so such wells would stop operating. As soon as the price recovers sufficiently, the wells start up again. Every well probably has its own critical price based on storage tank size and cost to transport the oil.

41 posted on 10/11/2006 11:49:05 AM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: Stat-boy
Also new technologies will open or re-open wells that otherwise were not profitable---

WEST BERLIN, N.J., Sept. 28 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Mobilestream Oil and Global Resource jointly announce a meeting between the companies to be held on October 11, 2006, to discuss the acquisition by Global of all technologies owned by Mobilestream Oil.

Mobilestream Oil, Inc., (OTC Pink Sheets: MSRM - News) owns a family of microwave technologies which not only allow for the complete recycling of an automobile tire (recovering all of the component parts for resale), but also permit the economic recovery of oil from sources such as shale, tar sands, oil resid and existing oil wells.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060928/clth009.html?.v=65

42 posted on 10/11/2006 11:52:21 AM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: ukie55
ukie55 said: "Thanks, and I was happy with $2.49 till I read your post. Some places around here are still at $2.65. I wonder why? /s"

There is a factor keeping gasoline prices high that will kick in hard real soon, I think.

Less than five years ago, I paid $1.09 per gallon in Los Angeles. Perhaps the wholesale price was as low as $.40 per gallon. I don't really know.

But today, I have to pay about $2.65 per gallon here and the wholesale price nationwide is $1.45 per gallon.

That's a markup of $1.20 to get wholesale gasoline into my tank. That's far more than it cost five years ago.

So, what changed?

One change is inventories. At today's wholesale and retail prices, inventories are growing. As the article points out, it is possible to purchase oil and contracts which will pay one to simply store oil.

When every bucket and teacup in the US and the rest of the world is full, then things will start to change rapidly.

Locally, the discount station that I frequented for years has its pumps turned off. They haven't sold a gallon of gas in perhaps as long as a year. (Just after what was obviously a very expensive upgrade of their tanks and equipment.)

The reason that my local discount station is closed is that they can't buy gasoline at prices attractive enough to do business with their intended customer base; that is, the "super frugal" such as myself.

When the teacups start overflowing, gasoline will begin to be available to the independents again. Then stations will have to trim their margins and compete for customers.

43 posted on 10/11/2006 12:00:45 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: thackney

There was a glut. It was a short one, and prices have been skyrocketing ever since.


44 posted on 10/11/2006 12:28:45 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: BenLurkin

bump


45 posted on 10/11/2006 12:37:19 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: shield

this will TANK chavez BIG TIME!!!


Citgo stations USED to have slightly Higher prices roun gere, Now, they are the lowest! Ha Ha Ha Hugo!


46 posted on 10/11/2006 12:40:14 PM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: litehaus

Yep, after seven eleven thing and his awful visit to the USA...those stations dropped 15 cents below all others. I don't care....I'm buying my gas at the same place I've always brought it.


47 posted on 10/11/2006 1:00:14 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: mysterio
There was a glut.

It was caused by faltering Asian economy and OPEC's short sided greed that prevented them from agreeing to the larger production cuts as they had in the past. And you are right, it created a glut.

My point is they actually had more of a monopoly then as compared to now. It will happen again, maybe in a few years or will take a couple decades. But if you follow this market long enough you will realize boom/bust is fairly normal.

and prices have been skyrocketing ever since.

At least you are learning some. Back in July you said we would never see $30-35 without competition. At least now you are claiming $20.

48 posted on 10/11/2006 2:21:09 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: BenLurkin

Just wait until the dilithium chamber enters the market. Oil will crash!


49 posted on 10/11/2006 2:25:18 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice
I want my next car to be powered by Mr. Fusion....
50 posted on 10/11/2006 2:30:21 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: thackney

No, I said it will never drop to $20 until the market produces a competitor. Could it? Sure, I guess. Will it? Probably not.


51 posted on 10/11/2006 3:58:10 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: shield
If true...and I believe it could very well be true...this will TANK chavez BIG TIME!!!

Maybe some thoughtful, considerate Venezuelan will do us a favor and kill him before then.

52 posted on 10/11/2006 4:00:33 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hugo Chavez is the Devil! The podium still smells of sulfur...)
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To: fml

What was that? LOL!


53 posted on 10/11/2006 4:04:41 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: mysterio

Do you still believe it will not hit $30-35 without a competitor? And how much market share does that competitor need to have? (or any other way you want to measure it)


54 posted on 10/11/2006 4:23:22 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

It might hit $40 again, but I doubt it. The competitor would need 10%+ market share to have any impact at all. And oil will have to stay $60+ for a while before the market produces a competitor that anyone is interested in.


55 posted on 10/11/2006 9:57:48 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

Thanks for the input. I see it hitting $30 again fairly easily but if that is in 3 years or 10 years, I wouldn't put any money on it. Oil was in the 'teens less than 5 years ago. The market and players just have not made in major changes to think that it will not happen again, in my opinion.

Oil Prices
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/rwtcd.htm


56 posted on 10/11/2006 10:11:13 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They've been trying....everytime you hear this thug blaming Bush...you know his people have tried and failed. [Per several reliable sources]


57 posted on 10/12/2006 8:53:52 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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Oil prices poised to drop sharply, energy consultant says-(1.15/gal)
contracostatimes | Wed, Sep. 13, 2006 | Kevin G. Hall
Posted on 09/13/2006 9:56:52 PM EDT by Flavius
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1701085/posts


58 posted on 12/11/2006 7:32:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: fml
Yeah. It is like mold!

It just won't go away...what, 5 years running now!? Nice if it ever came true...but this wishful thinking obviously has SPIN written all over it. And who benefits thereby? I can only think that this is really Kool-Aid intended for the electorate...to placate the dawning realization of immense inflation now bursting through...keeping people's wage demands static with false hopes.

Some of the finger-prints on this kind of spin point squarely right to the top of the administration...US Fed to Discontinue Publishing M3 Numbers

59 posted on 12/12/2006 12:54:46 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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