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Iran's Secret War: Persians 'ethnic cleansing' Arabs in Iran
Times Online ^ | 10/10/06 | Peter Tatchell

Posted on 10/10/2006 9:45:46 PM PDT by freedom44

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1 posted on 10/10/2006 9:45:48 PM PDT by freedom44
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These folks are, I guess, Shiite Arabs, essentially the same people as the Shiite majority in Iraq. I would guess that this would make a Shiite Iraq alliance with Iran much less likely.
2 posted on 10/10/2006 9:52:26 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (These days you are either nervous and uncomfortable or you are braindead!)
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To: freedom44
Are the Ahwazis Muslims or something else?

Dispicable, in any case.

3 posted on 10/10/2006 9:55:21 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (good fences make good neighbors!)
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

Arab Muslims. Arabs are 2% of Irans population.


4 posted on 10/10/2006 9:56:30 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

/Dispicable --- DESPICABLE -- my spelling is terrible when I'm tired.


5 posted on 10/10/2006 9:57:56 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (good fences make good neighbors!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Don't read too much into it. The Iranian dictatorship is considered by the vast majority of the Iranian populace as fundamentality Arab in culture even though they're ethnic Persians.


6 posted on 10/10/2006 9:58:00 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44

Thanks.


7 posted on 10/10/2006 9:58:21 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (good fences make good neighbors!)
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To: FARS; Cyrus the Great; nuconvert; Prince of Persia; Stefania

Ping. Interesting that the article doesn't bring up the fact that the regime 'themselves' are 'Arabic' in culture, even though they're Persians they embrace an Arabic ideology, culture, mentality instead of a Persian one.


8 posted on 10/10/2006 10:02:05 PM PDT by freedom44
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I must disagree with your conclusion that the Iranian leadership is Arabic in culture. The official language of Iran is Persian and they do not consider themselves to be Arabs. Islam is obviously an Arabic influence, but the Persians distinguish themselves from Arabs just like the Turks and other non-Muslim Arabs. Iran has strained relations with Saudi Arabia and other Arab governments in the region. The Iranians are certainly Islamic fanatics, but they are Persian Islamic fanatics.


9 posted on 10/10/2006 10:13:38 PM PDT by Alfonso1000
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The average Iranian in the streets considers the dictatorship to be too 'Arabic' in culture, they may speak Persian/Farsi but they aren't Persians in culture. The regime does not embrace Iran's history or culture, they embrace an Arabized version which is post-Arab Invasion. Most Persians admire the pre-600 A.D. era when there was the Persian Empire - Cyrus the Great, Darius the Great, Xerxes, etc. Something shunned by the current regime.


10 posted on 10/10/2006 10:19:03 PM PDT by freedom44
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Aren't they the same ones that forcibly converted the Persians, then followers of Rastafarianism (sp), to Islam, in the seventh century? I say so much the better, let the ROP continue killing each other, they won't have time to kill us.. Isn't that the Roach Motel theory?


11 posted on 10/10/2006 10:19:35 PM PDT by Schwaeky (Welcome to America--Now speak English or LEAVE!)
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"they embrace an Arabic ideology, culture, mentality instead of a Persian one."

Islam is not an "Arabic ideology." At least not any more than Christianity is a "Hebrew ideology" or Buddhism is an "Indian ideology".

Arab is an ethnic group like Persian is... both are mostly Muslims and have the same culture(religion more than history or race defines culture...even in a more secular west). And didn't Mohammad begin his campaign by killing and terrorizing Arabs themselves? And a lot of so called Arabs aren't Arabs by ethnicity, but Arab by language and culture.


12 posted on 10/10/2006 10:20:40 PM PDT by sagar
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"Aren't they the same ones that forcibly converted the Persians, then followers of Rastafarianism (sp), to Islam, in the seventh century?"

I don't think the ancient Persians were Rastafarians :D No Rastas back in those days, mon. :))

They were Zoroastrian.

13 posted on 10/10/2006 10:23:22 PM PDT by sagar
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To: freedom44

That is interesting. I have spoken to Iranian Persians who admire ancient Persian culture as you described. I have never met any of the mullahs though, so what you posted makes sense.


14 posted on 10/10/2006 10:23:26 PM PDT by Alfonso1000
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No Rastas in Persia mon, that be Jamacia mon'.

You must be very young.


15 posted on 10/10/2006 10:41:19 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

No, you have it wrong. The Persian muslims in Iran are Shiite, and have always had a dislike for the Arab Wahhbi's who they consider "lovers of the anus" from the time of Ali.


16 posted on 10/10/2006 10:51:29 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: freedom44

They shun it because its superior in every way the to house of crap they built.


17 posted on 10/10/2006 10:59:10 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Wow .. that's just too bad. I'm fresh out of pity for arabs or muslims.


18 posted on 10/10/2006 11:34:45 PM PDT by Centurion2000 ("Be polite and courteous, but have a plan to KILL everybody you meet.")
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To: freedom44
Persians are not Arabs.
Either might be muslim.
We are being attacked by muslim fanatics - islamists.
I don't much care where they come from, but so far most terrorists have been non Persian.
However, for all their protestations of being separate, persians have done squat to differentiate themselves from the islamist loons that happily murder westerners and other muslims on a daily basis - and they have allowed a government that seeks to subvert civilization wherever it encounters it.
The choice seems to be fight them or bow to them...Persians, Lebanese, and FrenchBelgianSwedish/Etc. appear to have settled for the latter.
19 posted on 10/10/2006 11:52:39 PM PDT by norton
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"Aren't they the same ones that forcibly converted the Persians, then followers of Rastafarianism (sp), to Islam, in the seventh century?"

LOL. That's hysterical! I'm trying to picture it. LOL.
Rastafarianism was started in Jamaica in like the 1930's and reveres Haile Selassie of Ethiopia.


20 posted on 10/11/2006 9:50:48 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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