Posted on 10/10/2006 11:08:32 AM PDT by Small-L
For what it's worth,Scarborough is a hack and a bail out artist. Somebody has something on this guy!
I agree with you. He is a turncoat and I used to watch him regularly, now I can't stand to.
The economy is roaring, the deficit is down, jobs growth is up, gas prices are down Pelosi and Murtha want to cut and run from our fight against terrorists and Hillary Clinton wants to raise my children for me. Come on Joe go sell that crap to someone else.
That's a fact!
Great list, MNJohnnie!
This extensive list was accomplished IN SPITE OF THE LONG KNIVES in Bush's own party and cabinet, the dems, the media and every governmental agency.
This extensive list was accomplished IN SPITE OF THE LONG KNIVES in Bush's own party and cabinet, the dems, the media and every governmental agency.
Ditto!
What in the world is he talking about here?
During the 1990s, conservative Republicans and the Clinton White House somehow managed to balance the budget while winning two wars
What two wars did Clinton win?
Why?
We're not stupid, "discretionary spending" includes a huge amount of security spending.
Security spending that idiots like Joe and the idiots who believe him give Clinton "fiscal conservative" credit for neglecting!
Of course we can't ignore the voters that are idiots. That would be suicide.
I understand Rove plans on showing Joe and his friends shiny objects...pretty, pretty shiny objects oh my .
if you read the article, the comparison is to the 94-2000 period, when you had a gop congress and a dem president. What a dem congress would do does not enter into it because there is none, however. The point is having gop president AND congress = more spending than dem president and gop congress, which is contrary to what most here would have expected in 2001.
Check out our federal debt today vs in 2000. How much more in interest alone on the NEW debt since then are we paying each year? It is a huge amount, a decent chunk of the current deficit.
Not sure what who-and-who said about spending during katrina or what-not has to do with anything. What interests me are the NUMBERS. Do you actually listen to those people when they talk? Why?
re tax cuts - this is a positive, though it is offset to some degree by the fact he increased spending at the same time.
you can naysay or talk about what the democrats say till the cows come home, but this gop president is a huge spender on things that have nothing to do with WOT, iraq occupation, or katrina.
Therefore Joe and his Freeper Cheerleaders here are acting as Democrat Campaigners. Screaming denials does not change the factual reality. As any real Conservative knows, actions have consequences. Joe's article here is the ranting of a political idiot who has NOT the slightest clue that NOT everything you want in politics can be done the second you want it. So what this butt clown Joe is screaming is "Whaaa! You are not doing ONLY what I want, the second I want it. Whaa!" Joe is throwing an idiotic childish tempertatrum here not writing a serious consideration of what will best help move the Conservative political ball down the field.
I know don't bother the pseudo Conservative Freepers with the facts about how the idol is just whoring for his MSNBC pimps with this article here.
On Judges alone the GOP has done more for the Conservative movement then all the Perpetual Pouters in the Junk Media ever will. On Taxes, Regulatory Burden, Border Security, War on Terror, Rebuilding the Military, Social Conservative Issues, Beginning of the Privatization of Medicare and a whole host of issue the GOP has done a ton of good for the Conservatives.
This perpetual screaming from the Far Right because their political glass is only 70% full simply has to stop. NOTHING in life is ever going to be perfect. The Fringe Whiners in the Failed Media simply need to grow up.
Gee how many times are the Always Angry going to repost this nonsense?
On Judges alone the damage the Democrats could do is incredible. As usual the Always pouting totally ignore the impact of war, recession and ballooning MANDATORY entitlement spending on the budget in that time frame. They just forget all the facts that do not fit their naive, limited hyper partisan dogma.
Here is what this clutch of Always Whining Buchannites Fringers are arguing.
"Gee After being mostly out of power for 70 years, the Republicans finally got control of 2/3s of the Government in 2003. Now, less then 4 years later EVERYTHING is not perfect. Whaa! Conservatives should take their ball and go home because the political glass is only 70% full. That will punish those bad old Republicans for not doing ONLY what WE want the second WE want it done."
This article is the usual Know Nothing diatribe from the politically ignorant. IN life all things require compromise. Real Conservatives want to move the ball down the field. Pseudo Conservatives want only 100% of ONLY their views. That sort of 100%ersim results in total political irrelevance. Joe is nothing but an politically irrelevent media whore doing his Leftist pimps bidding
"REALLY intresting how all the hsyterics over spending NEVER bother to consider the impact of manditory Entiltelment spending has inflated spending"
not sure what is so confusing about this, from your attitude you would think it was a constitutional requirement. All congress has to do is include in the budget a clause modifying this, and bush (mr one veto) can sign it. problem solved. Obviously the GOP congress and president aren't doing this.
Those nuke your whole "big Government Republicans" premise. Looking at total spending in the midst of a war, and just after a recession, to validate your claims is nothing but intellectually dishonest statistical manipulation. Taking a set of numbers out of context to validate preconceived notions is propaganda, not intellectual inquiry.
There there is THIS data that the junk Media simply surpressed. Once again, as Bush knew, the Reagan model works.
Re: Budget Deficit Drops to $250 Billion-link
Budget Deficit Drops to $250 Billion
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1714970/posts
I don't watch Scarborough much anymore for a host of reasons. This Foley thing is an orchistrated event and to fall into the "oh, this is terrible and how could Republicans do this let's not vote at all because we have lost our way" nonsense ignores the big picture. Foley is gone, Barney Frank is still in office. What Barney did was far worse than what Foley might have done. What-the-hell is wrong with us? We are in a war, terrorists want to kill us every minute of every day. North Korea threatens nuclear holocost, Iran wants to eliminate all non-Muslims, etc, etc. And we're focusing on text messages and emails?
And let's not take credit for things that haven't happened yet...the Fence bill doesn't actually require a fence to be build--it may all be a pre-election smoke screen: Last-minute bill changes funding for border fence
For one, I don't appreciate pre-election games on either side, but the RP is supposed to stand for integrity and capability. I'm not seeing much of either lately.
On the subject of the economy, consider the following: From: zFacts.com:
"In 1981 the gross national debt, as a percent of the nation's annual income, reached its lowest point since 1931, 32.5%. It could have been paid off then easier than at any time in the previous 50 years. But inflation was high and Reagan mistook inflating dollars for a real growth in debt. On February 5, 1981, two weeks after taking office, in his "Address to the Nation on the Economy" Reagan said: "By 1960 our national debt stood at $284 billion. ... Today the debt is $934 billion. ... We can leave our children with an unrepayable massive debt and a shattered economy." But, the 1960 debt he said was "smaller" was 56.1% (instead of 32.5%) of our national income. As seen below Bush II has imitated Reagan and turned the debt upward once again. The White House, in OMB's 2006 Budget, predicted a 47 year high in 2006."
"The national debt peaked at 120% of GDP in 1946 due to the war effort, but Roosevelt, Truman, Ike, Kennedy, LBJ, Nixon and Carter all did their part to bring the national debt back to pre-war levels. By the beginning of 1981, the national debt had fallen to 32.5% of GDP. Then, Reagan took office and the national debt took off. It rose non-stop for 12 years to 66.3% at the end of Bush's term, erasing 25 years of progress in paying down the national debt."
The economy is looking great, but is it at the expense of future generations who will have to pay for the debt?
Dear MNJohnnie,
Excellent post. Thanks.
Anyone who says that the Republicans and President Bush have not done enough is correct. Not everything listed herein would be considered a credit to Mr. Bush and the Republican Congress.
But anyone who says that they're as bad as the Democrats is in grave error.
Members of Free Republic should be voting a straight "R" ticket.
sitetest
The Dims voted against the prescription drug plan - why ? Because the wanted a BIGGER benefit than Republicans were offering.
So - you think they'd spend less ? Hahahaha, yeah right.
I dislike what the Republicans are doing, but you think what the Dims wold give us would be better? No way.
You forgot one.
* Refused to do repel illegal invaders from our northern or southern borders.
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