"I am sick of people announcing that they have a right to have a baby. No you don't. "
And you have no right to stop someone from having a baby by any means they can if that is their wish.
"And you have no right to stop someone from having a baby by any means they can if that is their wish."
Does that include killing the mother and ripping her baby from her womb? Cause that will get you a child too.
There are immoral means to having a child.
Any means?