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'Vaccinate 11-year-olds against sex virus'[UK][Cervical Cancer]
Telegraph ^ | Oct 06, 2006 | Telegraph

Posted on 10/09/2006 4:42:37 PM PDT by MrNationalist

Girls as young as 11 should receive compulsory vaccinations against a sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer, according to an influential medical journal.

The Lancet published an editorial calling for compulsory jabs for 11- and 12-year-olds despite fears that they could encourage under-age sex.

The Sunday Telegraph revealed last month that ministers have commissioned secret research into parental attitudes towards a concerted vaccination programme in primary schools.

Last week the European Commission gave the go-ahead for the anti-cancer vaccine Gardasil to be used in EU member states.

The licence allows the vaccine to be given to children aged nine to 15, and women aged 16 to 26.

Gardasil offers protection against human papillomavirus (HPV), a virus spread by sexual intercourse that can trigger cervical cancer.

About 3,000 cases of cervical cancer are diagnosed in women in Britain each year, more than a third of which are fatal. The majority result from infection by HPV.

The Lancet said Europe should take its lead from the US state of Michigan, which passed a bill on Sept 21 ruling that all 11 to 12-year-old girls must be immunised.

The journal said there was growing support for the vaccination of both boys and girls, since men can carry HPV.

Studies have shown that female-only vaccination would be only 60-75 per cent as effective at reducing HPV prevalence in women as strategies targeting both sexes.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; Unclassified; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: cervicalcancer; herewegoagain; sex; sexvirus; std; virus
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"The Lancet said Europe should take its lead from the US state of Michigan, which passed a bill on Sept 21 ruling that all 11 to 12-year-old girls must be immunised."

Wow. Missed that one in the news.

1 posted on 10/09/2006 4:42:38 PM PDT by MrNationalist
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To: MrNationalist

If it's a more effective preventative when administered to both sexes, then why not immunize everyone? Not to be "gender-biased" but don't men usually have more sex partners? Or is everyone equally slutty nowadays?
I do think it's sad a child that young would be in danger of an STD.


2 posted on 10/09/2006 4:47:57 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: MrNationalist

Good thing I don't live in Michigan because my two girls(7 & 9) will NOT get this vaccination. Nanny state can kiss my a$$.


3 posted on 10/09/2006 4:58:27 PM PDT by Babsig (www.genesysitsolutions.com)
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To: visualops

The reason that they immunize young girls (9-15) isn't because they are in danger of getting an STD. The immunization is the most effective before a girl becomes sexually active, so they have chosen this age range as the best age for a girl to become immunized.


4 posted on 10/09/2006 5:02:14 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: MrNationalist

If a woman can 'choose' not to have a baby, why can't the parents be left to 'choose' which/if vaccinations for their child? Whats with the State mandating all these vaccinations?! I don't see this as important as smallpox, measles, etc.


5 posted on 10/09/2006 5:08:44 PM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (No NAIS! And the USDA can bugger off, too!)
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To: Babsig
Good thing I don't live in Michigan because my two girls(7 & 9) will NOT get this vaccination. Nanny state can kiss my a$$.

I feel the same way. I can see Nanny State declaring a parent unfit because of refusal to vaccinate for this.

6 posted on 10/09/2006 5:11:40 PM PDT by SteamShovel
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To: visualops

Very good point. The fact is many more males than females get the disease. That is the reason it is not a reportable disease, fear that homosexuals will be offended and discriminated against. Why they refuse to acknowledge that fact I don't know. Nothing can be accomplished until it is. As a medical professional it is amazing the lengths that we are required to go to preventing identity of those who have it from being known.


7 posted on 10/09/2006 5:22:33 PM PDT by midwyf (Wyoming Native. Environmentalism is a religion too.)
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To: ga medic

Exactly my point- you're only in danger of STD if sexually active- to go that young obviously implies sexually activity close to that age.


8 posted on 10/09/2006 5:25:52 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: visualops
Holy smokes!!!!

They don't immunize them for risk that day, month or even year! I haven't read the literature but most vaccinations are good for decades or even life.

They aren't assuming your little girl is going to paint the town red tonight. They are assuming that at some point in her life, she will become sexually active. I hope that it is as adult in a marriage.

Now suppose your daughter is a virgin and her husband to be has been a good man except for one bad choice, would you condemn them to the possibility of losing a young wife and mother to cervical cancer?

My kids were vaccinated for hepatitis B as toddlers, was it because I assumed that they were going to get tattoos and shoot heroin before they start kindergarten? No, but it will provide a measure of protection for the rest of their lives.

As for why they only vaccinate girls, it's because they have a cervix and are at risk for cervical cancer. There is a public health argument for vaccinating all kids but guys in bow ties and thick glasses sit down and calculate cost vs. benefit. Even if the vaccine is very expensive, a few lives saved from cancder makes it worth it. It may be too expensive for prevention of unsightly blemishes thus the decision not to vaccinate boys.
9 posted on 10/09/2006 5:29:13 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: MrNationalist

HPV is related to other types of cancer, including mouth. It is not exclusively an STD. If you have ever had a wart, be it on your nose or your scroat, you have it. While everyone should be vaccinated against it, the correlation between HPV and cervical cancer is by far the highest. Ladies first.


10 posted on 10/09/2006 5:30:10 PM PDT by Paul Heinzman (Progress was all right. Only it went on too long. --James Thurber)
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To: MrNationalist

We need a constitutional amendment to end compulsions and prohibitions for "health".

Why limit the compulsion to 11 and 12-year-olds when those at immediate risk and with whom there would be an immediate health benefit are older? Because if they ordered 26-year-olds to get shots, they would be able to resist and do it publicly, which would encourage younger people and parents to do so. The state knows it can only force 11 and 12-year-olds and their limited number of parents at any given time. They didn't mandate boys because they would resist getting a "girl's vaccine".


11 posted on 10/09/2006 5:31:41 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: visualops

Not true. I would consider the vaccine for my children in the event they were sexually abused or raped.


12 posted on 10/09/2006 5:47:48 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: dangerdoc

I stand corrected- my first thought was just for childhood- which seems to have all but disappeared these days, and not to anyone's benefit.
But, if that's the thinking, why not simply add this vaccine to the roster of childhood vaccinations given much earlier (barring medical reasons)?


13 posted on 10/09/2006 5:54:53 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: MrNationalist

Is there a vaccine against Liberalism? If we had that, the vaccines against sex viruses and Hepatitis would be unneccessary.


14 posted on 10/09/2006 6:00:43 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Mrs. Shawnlaw
If a woman can 'choose' not to have a baby, why can't the parents be left to 'choose' which/if vaccinations for their child? Whats with the State mandating all these vaccinations?

Because the vaccine causes your daughter to ask questions you will be compelled to answer, and the left will have successfully bypassed your gatekeeper role as a parent, and forced on your child the early immersion into their culture of decadence.

15 posted on 10/09/2006 6:03:14 PM PDT by montag813
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To: visualops

I've never heard of anything so prudish in my life...You would deny your daughter a vaccination that could one day save her life because you don't believe that one time during her life she might make a mistake??? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME???


16 posted on 10/09/2006 6:06:54 PM PDT by Hildy
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Michigan, which passed a bill on Sept 21 ruling that all 11 to 12-year-old girls must be immunised."

I believe they changed it to be voluntary. I sure don't want all the little girls of Michigan to be guinea pigs.

17 posted on 10/09/2006 6:10:32 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: Hildy

Like my previous post, if a woman can 'choose' to have a baby or not, why can't a parent 'choose' vaccinations for their child? Why should parents HAVE to give up their children's health to the State? Does the State have more knowledge than a parent? Who pays the States salaries anyway? Hmm?


18 posted on 10/09/2006 6:10:36 PM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (No NAIS! And the USDA can bugger off, too!)
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To: Hildy

Chill out and tone down the melodrama. At no point did I say I would deny my daughter a vaccination. (Nevermind that at 18 a woman could choose on her own whether to get the vaccination).
ALL I did was bemoan the thought of children being sexually active at such a young age.
And, if you'd bothered to really read my posts you would have seen that.


19 posted on 10/09/2006 6:11:13 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: ga medic

Yea, yea, my Dr wanted me to do HRT therapy too. I told him when they had a pill that could do something about the hair in my husband's ears and nose I would consider it. And look where that went! I would not agree to this either. If someone else wants to be the guinea pigs for years before they come out with the real results, so be it.


20 posted on 10/09/2006 6:13:10 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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