Posted on 10/09/2006 10:36:54 AM PDT by Cowgirl
Of course it is. You only understand what makes sense to your worldly mind. What God wants you to do doesn't enter into the picture.
Rape a child and cut off her breast. Yeah, a real holy warrior there.
Either a Muslim or a psycopathic child molester and rapist. Hard to tell the difference. Can we deport them yet?
Protection by the first amendment does not cover criminal acts. We need to execute muslims that act out their faith, and imprison ones who have not yet done so. After all, those who followed Charlie Manson got prison terms. It was their faith.
Yeah thats the ticket, blame the parents for their children being murdered and tortured, not the killers. After all, being near Muslims is a form of child abuse. And while you are at it, protect the Muslims right to choose a death cult as a freedom of expression.
Makes sense in a liberal sort of way.
That is a crock of manure. You have ten times the chance to be murdered in any major American city in a given night than you have to be murdered in any major Israeli city. Just the facts man. I would rather be in Israel than in a 7-11 after the sun goes down.
But they have open carry laws here too. Kinda messes with terrorist ninds. They prefer to fight children in school buses. I honestly think that terrorists live in more terror than their victims.
The parents were victims as well, so yes, you are.
I am saying that the parents had reason to know or to at least strongly suspect that Pakistan was a very dangerous place
I'm sure they did know.
not a place a responsible Christian parent takes a child, for any reason.
An obedient Christian would go if God said go, regardless of the expected safety level. A disobedient person would say, "No, I'm not going, no matter what you want, God. It's not safe."
Since God says to train up a child in the way he should go, a Christian parent should, therefore, want to teach their child to obey God. What better way to do that than to model that behavior, especially when it seems to go against the grain of worldly judgment.
Did they not even carry weapons to defend themselves and their children?
Neither of us knows whether they did or not.
But my reading of the Bible tells me that God does not require nor desire the sacrifice of our children
Good thing your name isn't Moses. There would never have been an exodus from Egypt.
They could have found some other way, time or place to answer the call, or they could have left their children home.
When God calls, God calls. If you say 'not now' or 'not there', you are simply being disobedient.
Missionaries commonly take their children with them to the mission field. A lot of mission fields are dangerous (or later become dangerous). Do you actually think it a good thing for parents to abandon the care of the children to someone else for the years they are out on the mission field? I don't. If God gives them children, God expects them to parent those children, not hand it off to someone else.
I would no more take my children to live in a Muslim country than I would take them swimming in shark-infested waters
I presume God has not called you to serve as a missionary in a Muslim country. If that's the case, then of course you wouldn't. But if these people were called (and I presume they were), they had a choice of obeying or disobeying. They chose to obey.
It's sad their children died, but we don't know - the witness they gave by refusing to give up Christ may have been the whole reason God called the family to go there in the first place.
As you let Muslims live in your town, you too are guilty of very same child endangerment. Only difference is your lack of care is the cause for your danger, and their great care is the cause for them.
I think when it is time to stand before God, I would bet on their position rather than yours. Especially since you judged them, and as God says, as you judge, so shall you be judged.
Now you better go out and do something about the Muslims in America or you will be under the same magnifying glass. They after all were doing something about the Muslims in Pakistan...
Besides, if your kids were faced with the same choice, would they have the faith to stand for their faith in the face of death, or crumble in fear and fall to an eternal death instead? Just thought I would hold a mirror on the situation for us all. Not picking on you personally. -grin-
No, more like Revelations 6 verse 4: And there went out another horse [that was] red: and [power] was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.o, more like:
Revelations 6 verse
This is the Jihad, the Communists support and the nuclear warheade and balistic missiles that Russia and China have given Iran make up the great sword.
Just wanted to get the time line right, the fifth seal comes later in the Tribulation, we are only on the second seal. The fifth seal is when the martyrs are killed for refusing the number of the Beast. (Read Rev 20)
Uh, if there was a pre-trib Rapture, we missed the bus because the Great Tribulation has already started.
Besides, if all the Believers were raptured out, who is left to make a martyr of?
More like the religion of Rabies. They both lead to death, but Rabies explains the foaming at the mouth and the mindless mahem better.
Then you are not a Crusader, but a Churchaider.
Spoken like a true socialist. Would your children stand in their faith faced with death? If not, you are not responsible enough to take care of them. You have protected their bodies, and abandoned their souls. While you may not believe that, if the shoe was on the other foot, they could make a much more powerful case of irresponsibility than you. Freedom of choice is a two edged sword, for if it is not, it is nothing but dictatorship in gift wrapping.
How many people were murdered in your city this year? Why have you not moved to a place with a lower murder rate? Are you careless with your children's lives, or just lazy?
This is the logic you use to judge the only people that are doing anything about Islam. As Islam is perhaps the most realistic danger to your children's lives in the next generation, What are YOU doing to stop its explosive growth in violence?
How about we applaud the hero's and boo the villain's for a change? Even if it is not politically correct...
I don't know where you live, but I've been to Israel and I think my town is safer than many places in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. Not that I didn't have a great time, and many of the people on my trip got a kick out of posing with the soldiers carrying machine guns who were guarding every historic site we visited.
You mean this one? God Bless the True Believers.. it took courage then and now.
Rev. 20:
4 Then I saw thrones; those who sat on them were entrusted with judgment. I also saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, and who had not worshiped the beast or its image nor had accepted its mark 4 on their foreheads or hands. They came to life and they reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
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