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Vista spyware may give filip to Linux and OS X
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| 08OCT06
| Stan Beer
Posted on 10/09/2006 2:30:37 AM PDT by familyop
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And for those who want to avoid legal problems possible with the GPL/LGPL (Linux), BSD systems and licensing are an alternative for business applications.
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posted on
10/09/2006 2:30:39 AM PDT
by
familyop
To: familyop
If Mr. Softee The Cash Cow decides to use spyware, you can bet there will be trial lawyers lined up around the block to sue the company six ways to Sunday. It will make the Vioxx/Bextra drug class action bonanza or the tobacco litigation look like peanuts in comparison.
What is going to happen is Mr. Softee is going to fully disclose the piracy monitoring in its OS licensing agreements...and the user has to accept as a condition of using the software. As long as there is full disclosure, the company will get away with it. If your typical Democrat can't understand the lingo, expect class action lawsuits to a lesser extent.
Of course, there is the perennial antitrust concerns. To what extent will the DOJ and the EU allow Mr. Softee to impose conditions and restrictions given its share of the marketplace.
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posted on
10/09/2006 2:39:34 AM PDT
by
peyton randolph
(No man knows the day nor the hour of The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief.)
To: familyop
To: familyop
As far as consumers are concerned, unfortunately no Linux distribution has shown itself to be ready for prime time.Do you think the apps and games will start to be developed for Linux? If so when?
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posted on
10/09/2006 2:50:06 AM PDT
by
Fraxinus
To: Fraxinus
There are some 15000 applications available in a typical Linux distribution.
Most Windows games run quite well under Transgaming's Cedega.
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posted on
10/09/2006 2:54:03 AM PDT
by
Knitebane
(Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
To: familyop
... only to face the prospect of constant check-ups from some server in Redmond ... Redmond or some jobber in India?
I'm not a Gates-hater but he won't be able to sell this development to his friends in China.
To: familyop
that program has been trying to d/l on me for weeks now
I long ago check off from having automatic updates on XP installed for this very reason
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posted on
10/09/2006 3:13:45 AM PDT
by
sure_fine
(*not one to over kill the thought process*)
To: Fraxinus
"Do you think the apps and games will start to be developed for Linux? If so when?"
There are enormous numbers of applications for Linux and BSD systems (even office packages like OpenOffice/StarOffice for using MS file types). Quite a few of the new games will run on Linux and BSD systems (although more difficult to install--due to lack of documentation--in some BSD systems). Linux and FreeBSD will do direct rendering with some video cards. NetBSD won't, yet (but will do 2D with many).
For business uses, each of the various operating systems has its advantages and disadvantages. For employee familiarity, it's good to have a local Microsoft server for common business applications. For security and stability to provide most other services and for communications with the Internet, it is wise to run BSD servers (or commercial UNIX systems, when higher costs are not a problem). FreeBSD is flexible and even good for most workstation applications, while NetBSD can be installed in/for most devices and probably uses the best administration of development methods for kernel stability. OpenBSD is probably best for security on this planet, AFAIK (due to more uses of strong encryption packages--Canadian-based effort).
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posted on
10/09/2006 3:16:29 AM PDT
by
familyop
To: thegreatbeast
I remember how loudly Microsoft touted Windows ME. I had it. It sucked. I think I'll wait and putt along on XP for a while. It's not perfect, but it ain't bad.
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posted on
10/09/2006 3:16:58 AM PDT
by
CalvaryJohn
(What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
To: CalvaryJohn
I think I'll wait and putt along on XP for a while. It's not perfect, but it ain't bad.
Of the three computers that I use on a regular basis, two have XP and one has Win 2K. I prefer the latter and will continue to use it as long as possible. Cleaner, faster, and less crash-prone. Can't remember the last time I was force to reboot with it. XP, on the other hand, crashes on me at least once a month.
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posted on
10/09/2006 3:30:29 AM PDT
by
peyton randolph
(No man knows the day nor the hour of The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief.)
To: familyop; All
What's a... filip?
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posted on
10/09/2006 3:36:45 AM PDT
by
johnny7
(“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
To: Constantine XIII
"Epic Footbullet."
...agreed. I haven't run a MS OS for a few years and have a question for you (or for anyone who reads this and knows).
Will Vista need to have access to the Internet in order to run at all? It appears so from news about it. I'm thinking about installing it for testing Windows applications written by me and family but only plan to give it local access (home net with UNIX and terminals for the Internet).
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posted on
10/09/2006 3:37:24 AM PDT
by
familyop
To: johnny7
"What's a... filip?"
I don't know. ITWire is on an Australian site. Let's have a look (or "Captain Cook").
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posted on
10/09/2006 3:40:59 AM PDT
by
familyop
To: johnny7
"Filip" is apparently a figure of speech. In English ("fillip"--two _L_s), it's a finger snap or finger flip. It probably means something like "a prompting toward," "notice" or "attention."
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posted on
10/09/2006 3:47:07 AM PDT
by
familyop
To: familyop
Keep your eye open for msx leopard. As of now the msx will boot in windows by pressing one button.
My company has used macs since 84. With the dual boot system that is now available, our server,a UI, can do all we need. Helix, our database and BOM program works cross platform.
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posted on
10/09/2006 3:50:08 AM PDT
by
primatreat
(Alzheimer's in all its glory is knocking at my door. Driving into the sunset with my prius+ Nav.!)
To: familyop
I've heard it(or a derivative) spoken in reference to horses... but other than that...
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posted on
10/09/2006 3:55:57 AM PDT
by
johnny7
(“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
To: familyop
Or a periodic call to some M$ tollfree number. M$ will of course disclaim any liability if their system causes your confidential data to get broadcasted onto the internet.
To: familyop
We need to ID some hackers, and draw and quarter them on Pay-Per-View. Do this, say, quarterly. Make sure we nab some international ones from, say, Russia and Bulgaria and China, every now and then.
I predict the incidence of hacking goes *way* down.
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posted on
10/09/2006 3:58:47 AM PDT
by
FreedomPoster
(Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
To: primatreat
"
Keep your eye open for msx leopard. As of now the msx will boot in windows by pressing one button.
My company has used macs since 84. With the dual boot system that is now available, our server,a UI, can do all we need. Helix, our database and BOM program works cross platform."
Thanks for the tips! The
Xen virtual machine monitor might also have some potential. ...haven't looked it over, yet, but I'll try it soon to see how far along it is (and whether or not its going anywhere).
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posted on
10/09/2006 4:10:12 AM PDT
by
familyop
To: familyop
I have already had to call MS to beg them to let me run a purchased (Of Course) XP CD. I was building a system, changed a vidcard and added a SATA drive.
Well, I have Red Hat on two systems now, so it looks like it's time to really get to know it better.
What other flavors of Linux do people suggest?
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posted on
10/09/2006 4:12:07 AM PDT
by
Gorzaloon
("Illegal Immigrant": The Larval form of A Democrat.)
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