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China denounces "brazen" North Korea nuclear test
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| 10/09/06
Posted on 10/09/2006 12:53:49 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Talks won't work. N. Korea already indicated that they won't be a lapdog of China.
To: TigerLikesRooster
How convenient for the Chinese. Sign a pact with NK...attack Taiwan.
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posted on
10/09/2006 12:55:13 AM PDT
by
Dallas59
(Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Mission accomplished.
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posted on
10/09/2006 12:57:29 AM PDT
by
South40
(Amnesty for ILLEGALS Is A Slap In The Face To The USBP!!)
To: TigerLikesRooster; maui_hawaii; tallhappy; Dr. Marten; Jeff Head; Khurkris; hedgetrimmer; ...
To: TigerLikesRooster
What's there to talk about?
The horse has already left the barn.
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posted on
10/09/2006 1:07:58 AM PDT
by
DB
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To: TigerLikesRooster
More of the Chinese good cop routine, with North Korea playing the bad cop. The fact that they're playing on the same team is so transparent, I can't understand why the media - and some Western analysts - continue to take Chinese good faith for granted.
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posted on
10/09/2006 1:11:42 AM PDT
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Zhang Fei
To: Zhang Fei
Maybe, maybe not.
There's one thing for sure. China does not want a nuclear armed Japan. As of today, that is a very real possibility.
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posted on
10/09/2006 1:20:50 AM PDT
by
DB
(©)
To: Zhang Fei
"......I can't understand why the media - and some Western analysts - continue to take Chinese good faith for granted."
They (U.S. State Dept) would tell you that they only "pretend" to take Chinese good faith for granted, on the "diplomatic" assumption that they get more benefit by not angering the Chinese.
The (U.S. State Dept) are fools, because their pretense is leading the Chinese down the road of miscalculating a U.S. response at a future crisis point.
If people plan to use some aspect of "strength" to forcefully achieve some goal at some future point, then responding to the preparatory points along the way with weakness leads them to expect a weak response when the time for the end-goal is met; thus they are led to fully expect they will be able to take their forceful action without grave consequences.
It is better to be completely clear with your enemies at all times, even when that "upsets them". At least they do not miscalculate your reactions.
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posted on
10/09/2006 1:24:31 AM PDT
by
Wuli
To: DB
There's one thing for sure. China does not want a nuclear armed Japan. As of today, that is a very real possibility.
Japan won't go nuke. Not if they want to remain under the American conventional and nuclear umbrella*. (As a multi-decade recipient of cost-free security, the Japanese also think it's Uncle Sam's job to protect them. Why spend huge amounts of money if somebody else will protect you - better - for free?) We have extended our protection to many Asian countries on one condition - that their forces remain conventional. The moment they go nuclear, the offers of protection are off. This is how we prevented South Korea and Taiwan from going nuclear. Why do we do this? Because our word counts for something. If there's going to be a nuclear war involving the US, we want only American fingers on the nuclear button on our side.
* The nuclear umbrella means that a nuclear attack on them will provoke an American nuclear response. This is not commonly known, but it is a fact.
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posted on
10/09/2006 1:31:20 AM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
To: South40
What's with the Elvis glasses on that dude? I should break out Jail House Rock or something.
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posted on
10/09/2006 1:34:03 AM PDT
by
starbase
(Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
To: Zhang Fei
You're assuming Japan does not already have nuclear weapons.
To: medscribe
"You're assuming Japan does not already have nuclear weapons."
They don't even need one. All they need is to have all the ingredients in place ready for a secret crash program -- everything short of having to declare they've gone nuclear. They have the wealth, the critical ingredients and the know how...and now the strongest motivation they could possibly have. China has good reason to worry about Japan going nuclear.
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posted on
10/09/2006 2:17:36 AM PDT
by
quesney
To: TigerLikesRooster
..."brazen" North Korea nuclear test Yeah, nukes tend to be kind of obvious.
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posted on
10/09/2006 2:19:23 AM PDT
by
Grut
To: Zhang Fei
As a multi-decade recipient of cost-free security, the Japanese also think it's Uncle Sam's job to protect them. Why spend huge amounts of money if somebody else will protect you - better - for free? From Wikipedia: Japan's USD $45.8 billion/year budget makes it the sixth largest military spender in the world, after the United States, People's Republic of China, Russia, United Kingdom and France.
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posted on
10/09/2006 2:25:42 AM PDT
by
Grut
To: TigerLikesRooster
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posted on
10/09/2006 2:49:36 AM PDT
by
Solamente
(Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out...)
To: DB
China does not want a nuclear armed Japan. As of today, that is a very real possibility. I-think-you're-right bump.
I don't want a nuclear-armed Japan, especially one deploying eight-to-ten nuclear-powered aircraft carriers.
I like Japan as an ally, but news that they were suddenly building CVA(N)'s and SSN's would make me rather nervous.
To: DB
China does not want a nuclear armed Japan.
Yup. I said that on another thread. Also, they know as well as everyone else that Kim is a middle-aged-crisis nutbar narcissist.
Even though the Chinese are communists, they are sensible enough to realize that the only thing that can come out of this is regional and economic instability.
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posted on
10/09/2006 3:09:08 AM PDT
by
djf
(There is no such thing as "moderate muslims". They are all "silent supporters!!")
To: Zhang Fei; TigerLikesRooster
More of the Chinese good cop routine, with North Korea playing the bad cop. Or perhaps the Chinese are necessarily denying ownership of the "borrowed knife"?
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To: djf
the Chinese are communists, they are sensible enough to realize that the only thing that can come out of this is regional and economic instability Chia Head and his daddy twice tried to blow up the entire ROK cabinet.
What won't he try now, if he thinks he has impunity?
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