Rep. Kolbe saw Foley messages in 2000

Washington Post ^ | 11-9-06 | Jonathon Weisman

[az_gila]

Kolbe won't support Graf as his replacement.
He would be quite happy for the Repubs to lose, I think...

[donaldo]

How old was that page that the Dem Studds was cornholing? Didn't he take him to Portugal or something? Double standard - Studds being from Mass. gets reelected 5 times!

[Elyse]

Are we talking about the "overly friendly" emails, or the graphic text messages?

We have no idea because they were conveniently given to the media by the anonymous source with the condition that they not be reprinted so we have to rely on the media that characterizes the first known set of innocuous emails as 'sordid' to interpret these for us.

[Ingtar]

If a creepy gay guy is sending you IMs you don't want, why would you not just block them or change your IM address?

[FlingWingFlyer]

Although he already "resigned" from the House, Kolbe still needs to "resign" from something else. At least "apologize" to the DemocRATS.

[AmishDude]

Well, maybe you feel that a Congressman is too powerful, but I can only assume, by its absence, that this page was at least 18 at the time. And that's the dirtiest part of these page stories.

[FlingWingFlyer]

Hastert is not gay.

But...but...but I though he sent a bunch of email messages to some little page boy and he should resign. Or did he send the emails to someone named Foley demanding that a page boy resign. Crap! I'm confused.

[the Real fifi]

Oh please, 18 year olds are patrolling Anbar province. And we are expected to believe they are afraid to block IMs which make them "uncomfortable?"
I'm getting so sick of this nonsense.

[tgslTakoma]

Maybe Kolbe's saying he knew, and that he went to Foley himself, to draw fire away from the Repub leadership?

Or maybe he was trying to keep the leadership out of the loop so that his fellow gay pols could still have access to impressionable young minds in the House Page dormitory?

I don't know.

I do know that all this crap about gay congressmen getting nasty with teenage pages is proving the conservatives' argument that there isn't a whole lot of "normal" in the gay lifestyle choice.

[longtermmemmory]

re-read the story

It says INTERNET messages not INSTANT messages.

I suspect the Washington post is trying to confuse the public INTENTIONALLY


It is probably the emails NOT the INSTANT messages.

We have to be VERY careful with this media the next few days. Don't trust the MSM, they are trying to Goebles the story to morph emails into instant messages.

[jveritas]

The majority of voters are already sick and tired of hearing about this story, as usual the stupid liberals and their media have overplayed their hands...again.

[conservative in nyc]

How old was that page that the Dem Studds was cornholing? Didn't he take him to Portugal or something? Double standard - Studds being from Mass. gets reelected 5 times!

16 or 17. And yes, the page did travel to Europe with Congressman Studds (although the page claims he paid his own way).

Most seem to have forgotten this, but Congressman Studds did a lot more than have sex with just one underage male page (who, by the way, told House investigators that although the sex was not coerced, he would rather have had a friendship with Studds without the sex, which he said he "was somewhat uncomfortable with". The page never had gay sex before Studds). The Congressman also hit on two other male pages after getting them drunk - totally unwanted sexual advances. And the House Doorkeeper's office knew about Studds' hitting on the two pages.

People also tend to forget that a number of House Democrats - including many Democrats who would become committee chairmen if the Democrats take control of the House, and the head of the DSCC, Chuck Schumer, didn't vote to raise Studds' penalty from a weak reprimand to censure. If you don't believe me:

Link to downloadable PDF file of 7/20/83 Congressional Record, including Studds Censure
Link to downloadable PDF file of 7/14/83 Congressional Record, including Studds Floor Statement about proposed reprimand

Link to downloadable PDF file of 7/20/83 Congressional Record, including Crane (R) Censure (Compare Crane's remorse to Studds' brazenness)

(Note: You need to type the three-digit code on the bottom of the screen, press submit, and wait 30 seconds before it will let you download the files. You also might need to use a web browser that accepts cookies. Try IE if you're using Firefox or Netscape.)

[tennmountainman]

"Kolbe should have gone to leadership on this. Period. We are in this mess now because of him."

I'm surprised Kolbe wasn't PROMOTED to leadership for this.
He would be in good company with the rest of the sorry leadership.

[I'mPeach]

..."the youth feel (felt) uncomfortable with the direction Foley (R-Fla.) was taking their e-mail relationship."

It seems that all of these pages, (with the possible exception of the one that started this whole mess) were actively involved in some sort of "relationship" with Foley.

Since it was well-known that Foley is gay, then what did they expect?

[Ol' Sparky]

Foley was known to be sexually interested in young boys for SIX years and nothing was done. Pathetic.

[unspun]

Foley was known to be sexually interested in young boys for SIX years and nothing was done. Pathetic.

I sure hope this is the end of the GOP bending over for the "Log Cabin" Republicans.

[jveritas]

Known by who?

[PghBaldy]

ONE good reason to post such things is because I am sure the libs have them on their sites, and it is important for conservatives to discuss them and deal with them. Openly.

THAT SAID, I need to remind myself that the MSM has been purposefully obtuse in this matter, such as with all of the unnamed sources, and evidence hidden or long gone... I believe it is better to deal with it, then to just let the other side frame the debate. I trust Hastert. I have seen NO indication he is a dishonorable man. I am furiouser and furiouser over this whole thing. With Foley, with the unnamed sources, ABC, CREW, Mike Rogers, DCCC... I miss Tom Delay...

[Wild Irish Rogue]

" But Cline denied the source's characterization, saying only that the messages had made the former page feel uncomfortable. "

The non story has now completely jumped the bathhouse.
Mad Man with nukes or former pages feeling " uncomfortable." Hmmm...

Hi - How are you ?
I saw you wearing corduroy pants- a word of caution-they make you look fat. Best Wishes Mark Foley.

[unspun]

I do know that all this crap about gay congressmen getting nasty with teenage pages is proving the conservatives' argument that there isn't a whole lot of "normal" in the gay lifestyle choice.

Rino's do it.