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Foley: The Final Straw
Time ^ | October 7, 2006 | Frank Luntz

Posted on 10/08/2006 5:27:03 PM PDT by quidnunc

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To: quidnunc
Now let me get this straight...they want Republicans to believe that because Foley is slime, we will rush out to elect [d]emocRATS? I don't think so. I'm pissed, but not enough to stay home and allow the RATS to be elected! That just they way they want you to feel. We Republicans don't have to wait for the RATS to destroy us...they will feed those stupid enough to fall for their bullsh$$ and we will defeat ourselves. That worked once...not again! LET'S ROLL! EAGLES UP! We will not lose the House or the Senate...mark my words!!!!
381 posted on 10/09/2006 9:28:28 PM PDT by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN OLD FEMALE FREEPER!)
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To: nopardons
I've "had enough." This is the "last straw."

I mean, it's utterly intellectual sewerage, these assertions I hear that homosexuality is not heavily steeped in pederasty.

382 posted on 10/09/2006 9:28:50 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: nopardons

You are just afraid of God's having anything to do with the nation. But he does, your fear of it notwithstanding.


383 posted on 10/09/2006 9:29:55 PM PDT by Free Baptist
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To: thoughtomator

I believe my response to you shows I know it WAS not insignificant concern. It remains so because we are still reaping the "rewards' of clinton's 'give, show and tell'.


384 posted on 10/09/2006 9:36:44 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: quidnunc; All

I believe that the GOP should be campaigning nationally for House races saying to voters that they should elect Republicans unless they want to see President Bush impeached. Make no mistake, if the House goes Democratic, articles of impeachment will be passed in the House. If the Senate goes Democratic, unlike the Clinton episode, a Democratic Senate will convict President Bush on impeachment charges and remove him from office, possibly then trying him on some kind of criminal charges.


385 posted on 10/09/2006 9:36:46 PM PDT by Binghamton_native
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To: Binghamton_native

I never listen to this liberal propaganda whose sole purpose is to get the GOP voters to stay home on election day. They think if they feed this crap to the people they will believe it. I don't, I have seen enough of polls and naysayers in the last sevearl elections and it is always wrong and we always win.


386 posted on 10/09/2006 9:43:23 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (You have 2 choices vote republican or whine about how bad the country is when the liberals take over)
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To: Free Baptist
Yes, I am "afraid" of people who claim that ONLY their kind of Protestants should be allowed to hold any elected office and the like, which IS what is at the very roots of the Constitution Party. And the more you post, the more you prove what I've said; you're also making others, who read your replies, want nothing to do with you or it. Congratulations on being the standard barer and true exemplar of the CP.

And before you post anymore accusatory drivel, please allow me to tell you that I am a Christian, Protestant, believe in GOD, but don't want anything whatsoever to do with the likes of you. Go preach to the crowd in the religious section on FR and leave the news threads to those of us who want to discuss POLITICS.

387 posted on 10/09/2006 10:04:49 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Petronski

LOL


388 posted on 10/09/2006 10:06:09 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Bobbisox
Sing that song LOUD and CLEAR! There really is an army of like minded folks here and out there...in real life.
389 posted on 10/09/2006 10:08:01 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: unspun

Hunh?


390 posted on 10/09/2006 10:09:26 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Bobbisox

Words formally marked.


391 posted on 10/09/2006 10:10:54 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: nopardons
I've "had enough." This is the "last straw." I mean, it's utterly intellectual sewerage, these assertions I hear that homosexuality is not heavily steeped in pederasty.

Hunh?

This is the real kind of "last straw" that people who know which end is up get from this scandal. More, not fewer conservatives will be highly motivated, now, to vote for conservatives (and not for Foley RINO's).

392 posted on 10/09/2006 11:08:33 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: quidnunc
Yup... I'm so made at the GOP over that Florida f@gg0t and the failure to close the border that I'm going to vote for the Dems so that they can legalize gay marriage and register illegals to vote.

</sarcasm>

393 posted on 10/09/2006 11:17:08 PM PDT by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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To: Common Tator

I learn much from your posts! Keep on talking so I can get smarter.


394 posted on 10/10/2006 1:26:56 AM PDT by Kay
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To: Common Tator

That's all nice, and I'm glad you guys are having a love fest, but back to my original point- how do we address our consistently leftward tendencies as a nation? How do we restore the nation that this once was, with minimal government intrusion into our lives? Is this not the agenda of conservatism, and the founding fathers? The liberal mindset is lethal to freedom, but you sound like they're our partners or something, some perverse yin-yang deal.

I want these people stripped of influence. George Soros isn't worthy to attract attention. If the GOP wanted to, they could marginalize these creeps and expose them for the control freaks they are, but like I said- they get to DC and they realize that the Dems are needed as a unifying threat- because if they weren't around, guys like me would go immediately to the right.

So they play the game, and end up supporting guys like Specter over Toomey, or Martinez over McCollum. Katherine Harris same thing, but *horrors* she might actually win and oh, no, another conserative in the Senate! The GOP can't have that.

Do you know why Kerry got so many votes? Becasue he wasn't Bush. It's not because 50% of America is liberal, maybe 25-30% tops. Most people just look at gas prices and glance at the headlines- but a truly educated electorate is going to go right. The problem is, the GOP doesn't go for the jugular- not in a whiny, frantically off-the-hook Howard Dean way, but in a Macchiavellian way.

So stop defending the soft socialism of the Republicans and call it what it is. It's cancerous to America.


395 posted on 10/10/2006 2:42:24 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (We gotta watch out for the Hellbazoo and the Hamas...)
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To: ovrtaxt
You absolutely don't understand the point. Elected officials go with what they think will win. When a moderate Republican (let's use Chafee as an example) loses in the general because conservatives stay home, the winner is a democrat. In the next election, the candidate will be MORE liberal in order to defeat the democrat, not less.

If you want to get a more conservative Congress, you have to keep the RINO's in office in order to give a cushion to conservatives, andto give conservatives more clout. Chafee's reelection would tell moderate Republican officeholders that it is safe to be a Republican, and would encourage them to stand up for more conservative issues.

I realize this is counterintuitive, but look at it this way. Why would a moderate back the GOP on any unpopular decision if he thinks that no matter what he does it isn't good enough for the conservatives? Wouldn't he instead do the "go along to get along" routine (especially in a fairly liberal state)?

As far as an educated electorate, we have DECADES in front of us in trying to get the schools reformed. Returning this country to its roots of responsibility and self-reliance is going to take at least 50 years, if not a century. Patience and perseverance, as well as intelligent choices in strategy, are the only methods that will work. I hope you are patient.

396 posted on 10/10/2006 2:52:26 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Miss Marple
As far as an educated electorate, we have DECADES in front of us in trying to get the schools reformed.

So the GOP's solution is to let Ted Kennedy write the education bill? Perfect!

Counterintuitive is right. I do not "understand". That logic isn't working for me.

397 posted on 10/10/2006 3:28:57 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (We gotta watch out for the Hellbazoo and the Hamas...)
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To: ovrtaxt

Ted Kennedy did not write all of the education bill. The most important part is that there is testing and accountability required in order to get those federal funds you despise. The NEA HATES "No Child Left Behind" because they can't do their usual junk teaching and social promotion. There isn't TIME to do all of the liberal feel-good stuff if you have to be concerned about losing money because the kids are flunking the test; you have to actually teach them arithmetic and reading. This is why Kennedy keeps bellowing that the government isn't funding the program; he apparently didn't think that when the President said he wanted testing he really meant it. Now the NEA is mad and Kennedy realizes that the bill that he thought meant "free money for the NEA" isn't that at all.


398 posted on 10/10/2006 3:37:34 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Common Tator

Great to see you posting; hadn't realized you were back.


399 posted on 10/10/2006 3:46:13 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Miss Marple

So what happened to vouchers? We pussed out. Now we have to take the long way around.

Free market competition would have drawn black voters and introduced freedom into the government education monopoly. We could have gotten it done, but the GOP gave up on us.

Same thing with tax reform. That stupid no-balls panel that they put together has taken every occasion to IGNORE the FairTax- wildly popular with almost everyone who understands it, liberal or conservative.

Same thing with SS reform. Privatization not even on the radar anymore.

The medical/insurance/lawsuit circle is still spinning nicely. Nothing has been done to deregulate it and introduce greater market freedom.

The list goes on and on. 1994 seems like so long ago. Some accomplishments have been made, but the irrelevance, depowerment and marginalization of the DNC is crucial to seeing any real progress.


400 posted on 10/10/2006 3:55:40 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (We gotta watch out for the Hellbazoo and the Hamas...)
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