[Obie Wan]

Yeah well here's a question "MO FO". These programs have been used for a few years now,any violations to citizens that you've heard about,because I haven't heard of any? And you know what else "MO FO" if I hear of any I'll be the first one to sound off about em. But until then I don't have a problem with them. If you do call the ACLU,they'll be glad to listen !!!

[at bay]

Yeah, they'll let me know each time they intercept my e-mails or surreptitiously break into my house. No complaints? Everything must be peachy, Newbie.

[George W. Bush]

One of the Patriot Act provisions is that your phone provider and your ISP will go to prison if they let you know that you're under surveillance. That's one reason you haven't heard about it. The end of banking privacy is much the same: your bank's employees must surrender all info without letting you know. And it is not clear who the information is given to or the uses to which they will put it.

It paves the way for a total surveillance society, historically the goal of ruling classes that have bad intentions toward liberty.