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Hey how is your son doing? That is much more important right now.

In 1971 I was enlisting for combat arms mos in the US Army but backed out at the last minute, so now I am a 'wannabe VietVet'. In 1971 and '72 the conflict had shifted more into Laos and Cambodia, more Laos IIRC. This was not widely reported then, most likely that is where I would have ended up.

This is a totally different war they are fighting over in Iraq than we would have back in the 70's. That is obvious of course. We did not have near the personal protections, or the powers of some of the new weaponry available to us, but we were not faced with the humongous IED in a urban environment either.

But back to the debate.That some men believe and assert as a reality that all men have come from some ephemeral ape ancestor really means nothing to me (nor does it bother me) save for where to from that concept that some among them want to lead.

I don’t get the 'janitor' denigration either, unless it is the inference that academic recognition is some sort of value judgment on a mans life and contribution to the world.

That might be an interesting topic to research.

W.

I honestly don't know how my son is doing now. If you notice my new tagline You'll see where he's located. There was a post on FR regarding the 10th Mountain Division tonight, and where their AO now is. We have not heard from him since the email he sent last Tuesday morning. The new AO for the 10th must not be a very safe place, because my son told his brother not to let my wife and I know where he was moving to in a phone call he made about 12 days ago.

I served in the Air Force in the mid to late 70's, and was stationed at Minot AFB in a Security Police Squadron. Same job my dad did during the Korean conflict (though he was never deployed to Korea). My brother was an Army Ranger right at the end of Viet Nam, but also was not deployed to the war. Right now we have my son and my nephew (my brother's son) in Iraq. A close friend's daughter is also in Iraq. Our family has served in the U.S. military since the Revolutionary War, and we've had a family member in a war zone in almost every war/conflict since (two uncles served during Korea and Viet Nam).

As for the debate - it has denigrated into a insult fest from what I can see.

Thanks for asking about my son. I'll let you know when we next hear from him.