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To: KsSunflower

I agree to a certain extent. The question is, are "revelation gifts" still operational or did they cease with the Canon? If they did not cease, we should be writing down the tongues messages, prophecies, and miracles, continue writing the book of Acts and "add to the Word of God." When someone speaks in tongues with a public message, they are claiming to be speaking on behalf of God and if they are, the interpretation is the inspired Word of God and should become part of Scripture. How far do we go with this thing? Here lies the problem with continuing some of the gifts in today's church. Do I believe God heals? Yes! Do I believe God has empowered some man today with the gift to heal? No! If so he should empty out a hospital to give some credibility to his claim.


229 posted on 10/08/2006 7:23:43 PM PDT by evangmlw ("God Is Definitely Conservative")
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To: evangmlw
f so he should empty out a hospital

Why -- He didn't heal but one cripple at a densely attended pond that was supposed to be for healing of the infirm.

231 posted on 10/08/2006 7:36:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: evangmlw

Jesus left us the Holy Spirit to continue to reveal and guide. The Holy Spirit works through the gifts. He, however, doesn't do anything that contradicts scripture. If God didn't want to continue to work in our lives why would the Holy Spirit be necessary? God provides a dimension unknown to the world when we walk in the Spirit.

I Corinthians 2:6-16
6We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 8None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9However, as it is written:
"No eye has seen,
no ear has heard,
no mind has conceived
what God has prepared for those who love him"[b]— 10but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit.
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.[c] 14The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:
16"For who has known the mind of the Lord
that he may instruct him?"[d] But we have the mind of Christ


239 posted on 10/08/2006 8:11:56 PM PDT by KsSunflower
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To: evangmlw

I don't remotely buy into placing God in such a tidy little box. He has Never FIT SUCH.

1. I see no need for EnScripturating modern inputs from The Lord as Canon. The Canon itself took 300 or so years of discussion, prayer, discernment before being settled on. And, it seems rather complete, to me.

2. That's not the purpose of such in the church era. Holy Spirit leads into all truth--including which spouse to marry and a thousand other decisions.

3. The New Testament is full of examples of Holy Spirit's comforting, teaching, leading, guiding function to individual believers. Believers have not changed essentially and neither has Holy Spirit's service and function in their lives. Scripture is clear on this. Experience affirms Scripture and vice versa.

4. You will probably live to see hospitals emptied. There are mysteries aplenty. However, the fact remains, that folks who teach and practice laying hands on the sick see many healings. I expect to live to see the day when it will be 100% and children younger than 8 are such agents of healing. I actually expect many examples of the shadows of children being the agent of healing by Holy Spirit.

5. Christ HIMSELF said GREATER THINGS THAN THESE SHALL HIS FOLLOWERS DO.

Christ said it. I believe it. I've found it abundantly true.


243 posted on 10/08/2006 8:27:25 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: evangmlw

There are none so blind who cannot see.


330 posted on 10/09/2006 8:37:15 AM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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