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To: hnj_00

Funny how we hear so much crying over how hard the "poor deprived illegal immigrants seeking a better life" have had it in their efforts to cash in, er ah, gain acceptance, in the U.S.
"They risk their lives crossing the barren desert, seeking a better life!"

But has anyone ever made a study of how much LESS effort it would take to reform Mexico, and other third world H***-holes?
You know, the countries where these "hard workers" are legal citizens, speak the language, have families, and are too lazy to work together and reform their own land.

I have come to the conclusion that there is no acceptable excuse for Mex.* to be so bad.

Even if Mex. had NO education system, so many Mexicans have been educated in the U.S., so much U.S. money has been exported to Mex., so many Mexicans have returned to Mex. wealthy, the only possible explanation HAS to be that the people of Mex. LIKE their situation and will not allow it to change for the better!

I guess it's actually a pretty good system from their viewpoint.

The cops usually don't steal too much from the natives, ripping off tourist and escorting drug shipments is more lucrative.
If a native Mexican does get into trouble they can probably bribe their way out of it, or do a drug run for the local Mex. drug mob and their problem will go away.
When they really need money they just sneak into the U.S. for a while, if they are caught there is no significant penalty.
If caught too soon, they just try again the next day.
Once in the U.S. they can get world class medical care, and never even be asked to pay for it!
They get free or "in state" tuition which is often not available to U.S. citizens. They are too often actually better paid than U.S. citizens due to not having all the standard deductions taken from their pay.

I guess actually reforming Mexico (*and similar corrupt regimes) would spoil their racket, so no matter who wins election in those "impoverished nations" nothing will be allowed to change, at least not from their end!

What a great country we now have, it's actually a disadvantage to be a law abiding U.S. citizen!
Citizens have to adhere to the laws or face prison and fines.
The invaders can ignore our laws at will, knowing that the worst that is likely to happen to then is a free ride back home, and even that is rare.


31 posted on 10/07/2006 2:28:47 AM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Richard-SIA

"What a great country we now have, it's actually a disadvantage to be a law abiding U.S. citizen!"

So true...why can't the good citizen US taxpayers just reliquish their citizenship...they won't have to pay taxes...will get free mdical care...can go on welfare and or stupid lib/dem subsidy programs...probably will eventually get SS (if the lib/dems get their way) and laugh all the way to tthe bank like all the illegals from mexico do currently!


56 posted on 10/07/2006 9:50:41 AM PDT by hnj_00
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To: Richard-SIA
Sher Zeive: "US citizens whose property is located close to the Mexican border are under siege from the illegals' crossings into the country. Why are so many of them being sued?"

David Stoddard, retired Border Patrol: "Each Mexican Consulate in the United States keeps a group of lawyers on retainer. The Mexican Consulate is much like a big city pimp who keeps a stable of prostitutes. These lawyers are U.S. educated but they work for the Mexican government within the U.S. judicial system. By treaty, whenever a Mexican citizen is encountered by U.S. law or a U.S. citizen, the Mexican Consul is notified. If a U.S. Citizen border resident detains a trespasser who turns out to be a Mexican illegal alien, he is turned over to the U.S. Border Patrol. The Border patrol submits a report to the Mexican Consul containing all the details such as names and location. The Consul then consults with one of his U.S. lawyers. The lawyer then brings a suit in civil court against the U.S. Citizen usually for some contrived "civil rights" violation. The result is that U.S. border residents are reluctant to protect themselves against illegal alien thugs, thieves and vandals. The court costs are simply too much for most of us, so why take a chance? This is the way the Mexican government assures the free passage of its citizens across privately owned U.S. property."

Sher: "Finally, I understand that you were heavily involved in a program known as JTF 6 that is now called JTF North. You advised that, with this program, you were able to effectively close the Southern border. Would you explain the program and tell us why it is no longer being affected by our Border Patrol?"

David: "JTF North is still assisting the U.S. Border patrol. That is the program under which U.S. Military Engineer units are deployed to build fences, roads and other infrastructure. During the early 90's there were active duty military units deployed along sections of our border to assist the Border Patrol with narcotics interdiction. Among the units I personally worked with were Marine Recon, Army Special Forces, Army Air Cavalry and others.

"When these military units came in they brought their specialized equipment such as infrared devices, sensors, scopes and helicopters. In conjunction with the U.S. Border Patrol, they would deploy along the border and, for a brief time, there would be no traffic across that border. The smugglers and the alien traffickers simply ceased operations. We sealed 100 miles sections of the border at a time. It was very effective. But since it was temporary, the illegal traffic resumed as soon as the military withdrew. The whole border can be sealed in that manner. It wouldn't take all that many soldiers either.

"The whole U.S.-Mexico border could be sealed with as few as 100 helicopters equipped with FLIR (forward looking infrared) scopes, and a few hundred men equipped with state of the art sensors, scopes and other electronics. There are those who would argue that this is a violation of Posse Comitatus. That's ridiculous. Posse Comitatus prohibits the use of troops for domestic law enforcement. Border security is not domestic law enforcement. It is protecting our nation from foreign intruders. Besides, Posse Comitatus was passed in 1878, yet the U.S. Cavalry continued to patrol the U.S. Mexico Border until 1924. If Congress intended Posse Comitatus to prevent the military from securing our nation, the cavalry wouldn't have continued on the border for another 46 years. I once brought up that fact to U.S. Representative Jim Kolbe at a Town Hall meeting in which he stated that Posse Comitatus prevented the U.S. Military from securing our border. Jim Kolbe reacted with a look on his face like he had been photographed in a compromising position in a gay bath house. He has never again used Posse Comitatus as an excuse not to use the military on the border." Sher Zieve is an author, political commentator, and staff writer for The New Media Alliance (www.thenma.org). Zieve's op-ed columns are widely carried by multiple internet journals and sites, and she also writes hard news. Her columns have also appeared in The Oregon Herald, Dallas Times, Boston Star, Massachusetts Sun, Sacramento Sun, in international news publications, and on multiple university websites. Ms. Zieve is currently working on her first political book: "The Liberal's Guide To Conservatives."

58 posted on 10/07/2006 11:49:15 AM PDT by radar101
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