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Fence could make border agents easy marks Structure creates ‘trap’ for patrol
The Brownsville Herald ^ | October 6, 2006 | SARA INÉS CALDERÓN

Posted on 10/06/2006 12:45:54 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch

Border Patrol agents, “trapped” between two layers of border fencing could be sitting ducks for Mexican drug smugglers and coyotes, warns T.J. Bonner, president of the National Border Patrol Council.

A 700-mile double-layer fence approved for construction along the U.S.-Mexico border, including a Brownsville-to-Laredo stretch, makes patrolling agents vulnerable to attacks.

“The agents get trapped,” Bonner said, adding that the gates to exit the fence corridor are about a quarter-mile apart. “You can see where the gates are. It’s very clear. The smugglers know that there is no exit for our agents.”

The agency does not keep statistics on incidents that occur between existing border fences.

President Bush on Wednesday signed an appropriations bill for $1.2 billion to go toward fence construction through parts of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. A similar fence has been built near San Diego, Calif., with a Border Patrol access road sandwiched between a solid metal fence and a wire fence.

Bonner said agents in San Diego have been subject to rock throwing, gunfire and Molotov cocktails tossed over the Mexican side of the fence as they traveled the access road in between.

He said smugglers and others sometimes wait for agents to move away from the access gates, then send a barrage of rocks to divert other agents to the area. In the confusion, smugglers move their drugs, people or other contraband through.

“Officer safety concerns are clearly issues that should be thought about before you construct these multiple fences, which have not proven effective in stopping people from crossing the border,” Bonner said, estimating most are only deterred a couple of minutes by the extra security.

He suggested other options as more effective deterrents to illegal immigration, including requiring employers to swipe a Social Security card embedded with biometric data for new hires.

“Crack down on employers,” he said, “and if people can’t find jobs, they don’t come across the border. It’s that simple.”

Meanwhile, he worried that 700 more miles of fencing could potentially go up soon along the border, putting more agents in danger, he said.

“Why put up something that is going to result in needless injury to the men and women that are out there doing a job that is tough enough as it is?”

sicalderon@brownsvilleherald.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderwar; bp; corruption; fence; immigrantlist; immigration; mexico; terror; terrorism; texas; tjbonner; trap; wot
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I thought these were just people, with family values like ours, who only want to come here and do the jobs we don't want to do? You make them sound like murdering terrorists, T.J.!
1 posted on 10/06/2006 12:45:55 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: hispanarepublicana; radar101; RamingtonStall; engrpat; HamiltonFan; Draco; TexasCajun; ...

Sitting Ducks vs. Coyotes Ping!


2 posted on 10/06/2006 12:51:51 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

“Crack down on employers,” he said, “and if people can’t find jobs, they don’t come across the border. It’s that simple.”

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Do you think they're all just going to go back? Maybe crime would rise?

They need to be stopped at the border. They need to be sent back when found.

The only real immigration is LEGAL immigration.


3 posted on 10/06/2006 12:52:12 PM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
T.J. Bonner, president of the National Border Patrol Council

Thank you for admitting that all is not rosy down on the border with these 'undocumented migrants' wanting to come here and work.
4 posted on 10/06/2006 12:54:06 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Both fence length will be on US territory, ergo that would be an act of military narco TERRORISM and make some Mexican folks subject to military COUNTER-ATTACK.


5 posted on 10/06/2006 12:54:51 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: SwinneySwitch
Why not have a rotation of armed PREDATOR DRONES fly that corridor? It is dead airspace ANYWAY.

Why put ANYONE'S life at risk now that we DO NOT NEED TO?

6 posted on 10/06/2006 12:56:29 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: rightinthemiddle
The answer to this is quite simple - don't have the BP patrol in the strip between fences. Have the strip instead covered by motion and weight detection devices. Have blinds every 100 yards or so for the BP to where smugglers don't know which one they are in. Use drones to surveil from the sky.

The fence is meant to slow them down to where they can be detected and apprehended.

7 posted on 10/06/2006 12:56:40 PM PDT by dirtboy (Good fences make good neighbors)
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To: SwinneySwitch

When there's a sizable hole in the ship's hull, it does little good to bail out a little water without first stopping the rest of the ocean from entering.


8 posted on 10/06/2006 12:57:47 PM PDT by azhenfud (an enigma between two parentheses)
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To: SwinneySwitch
“Why put up something that is going to result in needless injury to the men and women that are out there doing a job that is tough enough as it is?”

Didn't I just read somewhere that there are twenty million illegal aliens in America? Imagine how many would be here if these people weren't doing their job. We need a fence.

9 posted on 10/06/2006 12:58:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Today we march, tomorrow we vote!" The illegal aliens won't be "staying home" on Nov. 7th.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Don't patrol between the fences. The space between the fences is for yellow scorpions, rabid jackals, crocodiles, robocop, infrared megawatt lasers, and electrified mesh.


10 posted on 10/06/2006 12:59:33 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: dirtboy

The answer is even more simple - build a barrier like that of Israel's.


11 posted on 10/06/2006 12:59:33 PM PDT by azhenfud (an enigma between two parentheses)
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To: gaijin

The biiiig wonderful contract went to BOEING, which is going to use these expensive totally LAME blimps whose positions are KNOWN and therefore will be AVOIDED.

Predators can appear out of nowhere. They are persistent, easily maintained, never tire, are highly efficient, are stealthy, quiet...

Much too easy a solution for Washington, apparently.

12 posted on 10/06/2006 12:59:40 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: rightinthemiddle
Do you think they're all just going to go back? Maybe crime would rise?

Actually, yes, most of them would go back. Most illegals left homes/families/jobs to come here, and they would go back to them if we cut off the dinero.

They need to be stopped at the border. They need to be sent back when found.

While I don't disagree, you have to remember that only 60% of the illegals come across the Mexican border. The rest come here by plane and then overstay their visas. It's the jobs that draw them.

It's like illegals are bugs and jobs are your porch light. You can stand outside all night swatting the bugs, or you can TURN OFF THE LIGHT.

13 posted on 10/06/2006 12:59:48 PM PDT by AppleButter
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To: SwinneySwitch
I guess the obvious is too------obvious.

Why have them patrol between the fences?

Why not on the American side of the fences?

14 posted on 10/06/2006 12:59:58 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe

Don't use logic when debating Washington. It doesn't work nor apply...;)


15 posted on 10/06/2006 1:01:16 PM PDT by azhenfud (an enigma between two parentheses)
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To: SwinneySwitch

16 posted on 10/06/2006 1:03:01 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Just another Joe
No...the plan already is for BOTH fences to be on the US side. US agents would always be on US territory.

To attack US agents attackers would a priori be attacking into US territory.

17 posted on 10/06/2006 1:04:36 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: SwinneySwitch

This just in, new fence may prevent illegal immigration, making the Border Patrol complacent!

Tonight, in a special: "Let's pretend it won't work" report, Ryan Bross reports that Mexicans and terrorists are going to stop infiltrating in hopes the Border Patrol will relax its guard. The shlocking (sic) story tonight at eleven.
18 posted on 10/06/2006 1:06:24 PM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: gaijin
OK, then have them patrol on the US side of both fences.

(That's what I meant anyway).

19 posted on 10/06/2006 1:06:36 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: SwinneySwitch
A 700-mile double-layer fence approved for construction along the U.S.-Mexico border, including a Brownsville-to-Laredo stretch, makes patrolling agents vulnerable to attacks.

The premise is somewhat faulty and irrationally alarming. Yes being sandwiched in the proposed fence would make our agents vulnerable to attack, but that vulnerability is not necessarily the same as saying that our agents will be attacked.

Only a stupid coyote or drug runner will attack Federal agents, and if our agents do come under fire, our reaction will be to increase presence and security along that border, which will be the last thing the criminals along the border would want.

But yeah, if we're going to put our agents into a vulnerable position, we should give them armored vehicles, the latest body armor, and the ability to strike back. A couple armed predators flying in support of the border agents would do wonders to deter most violence.

20 posted on 10/06/2006 1:06:54 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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