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To: SDGOP

according the dems, we did have a surplus when BJ was in office, which of course is NONSENSE.


28 posted on 10/06/2006 2:15:54 PM PDT by sappy
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To: sappy

"according the dems, we did have a surplus when BJ was in office, which of course is NONSENSE.

Didn't BJ leave Bush a huge deficit? I thought that was the reason why we're still running deficits.


79 posted on 10/06/2006 7:45:46 PM PDT by stultorum (dont hire illegal aliens)
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To: sappy; FreeReign; stultorum; groanup; CharlesWayneCT; Rembrandt; Dengar01
according the dems, we did have a surplus when BJ was in office, which of course is NONSENSE.

Looking at the total federal debt, that's true. Likewise, it's nonsense that Bush has cut the deficit to $250 billion. The following table shows the federal debt over the past decade as given by the Treasury Department:

           TOTAL FEDERAL DEBT (billions of dollars)

                                 Intra-
  Fiscal   Debt Held              Gov't              Total
 Year End  by Public   Change  Holdings   Change      Debt   Change
---------- --------- -------- --------- -------- --------- --------
 9/29/2006    4843.1    241.9    3663.9    332.4    8507.0    574.3
 9/30/2005    4601.2    293.9    3331.5    259.8    7932.7    553.7
 9/30/2004    4307.3    383.3    3071.7    212.6    7379.1    595.8
 9/30/2003    3924.1    370.9    2859.1    184.1    6783.2    555.0
 9/30/2002    3553.2    213.9    2675.1    206.9    6228.2    420.8
 9/28/2001    3339.3    -66.0    2468.2    199.3    5807.5    133.3
 9/28/2000    3405.3   -230.8    2268.9    248.7    5674.2     17.9
 9/30/1999    3636.1    -97.8    2020.2    227.8    5656.3    130.1
 9/30/1998    3733.9    -55.8    1792.3    168.9    5526.2    113.0
 9/30/1997    3789.7             1623.5             5413.1

Source: U.S. Department of the Treasury, Bureau of the Public Debt,
        online at http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpdodt.htm

As can be seen in the last column, the total debt increased $574 billion in the fiscal year that just ended, over $20 billion MORE than it increased during the prior fiscal year. According to the third column, the debt borrowed from the public did increase $242 billion, $52 billion less than last year. However, the government borrowed over $72 billion more from Social Security and other trust funds, increasing the total borrowing by over $20 billion. So while it's true that entitlements represent a large problem in the future, Social Security and some other trust fund surpluses are currently masking our true deficit. Hence, the true deficit problem is not getting better and is currently caused by the general fund, not by entitlements.

102 posted on 10/07/2006 12:50:54 AM PDT by remember
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To: sappy
according the dems, we did have a surplus when BJ was in office, which of course is NONSENSE.

In 1998-early 1999, there was a projected surplus, if the same bubble that had CNBC screaming "NEW ECONOMY!!" as a way to justify bobsbaitshop.com going from a ice chest in a vacant lot to a $100 million stalwart of industry on the OTC, continued to grow at the same pace as the momo players were banking on us believing.

130 posted on 10/07/2006 2:48:46 PM PDT by 4woodenboats ("Show me what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman")
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