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To: gcruse

Well, I'd never buy a car from our government.

Unfortunately, our government has 535 congressmen, representing almost 300 million people, and some of them don't think like us.

And we need at least half of them in the house, and 60 of them in the senate, to get what we want.

And that means that sometimes you have to compromise. And if that compromise offers the hope of what you want, you don't throw it away, unless you are sure you could get a better deal -- something that there's no evidence for.

If we manage to hold the house and senate, the republicans can push for more money, or better control of the money, next year.

If we lose the house, OR the senate, you can kiss that money and the wall goodbye, and say hi to "comprehensive immigration reform" that will be WORSE than what the senate agreed to last year, WORSE than what the president was calling for, and DEVASTATING to our country and the republican party.

The anti-illegal-immigrant crowd was screaming for something to be done, or else they would stay home. They got a good number of people on their side, the american people who will vote are falling our way.

If the anti-illegal crowd runs around now yelling about the republicans being untrustworthy on the issue, those people we have won over will stay home, the democrats will win, and we will LOSE EVERYTHING.

If that's worth it to some to "punish" the republicans, I don't understand it -- I'd rather live to fight another day than shoot myself in the head in the hopes that after the bullet goes through it might hit a couple other people I don't like.

I'm not a suicide bomber.....


45 posted on 10/06/2006 9:51:15 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

"I'm not a suicide bomber.....'

If the spending of Homeland Security money on non-terrorist stuff like SWAT teams in Kansas didn't tell you something, and the spending of fence money on non-fence infrastructure (pork) doesn't bother you, then fiscally, I'd say suicide-bomber isn't far off the mark.


47 posted on 10/06/2006 9:57:13 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; gcruse
Well, I'd never buy a car from our government.

But you will trust "our" governemnt to run your life.

I agree with gcruse on this one and his analogy is spot-on.

50 posted on 10/06/2006 12:10:59 PM PDT by Eaker (Dix, TexasCowboy and Flyer all now live in the next best place to Texas . .. Heaven)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
If the anti-illegal crowd runs around now yelling about the republicans being untrustworthy on the issue, those people we have won over will stay home, the democrats will win, and we will LOSE EVERYTHING.

That "anti-illegal crowd" (and they are the overwhelming majority) is yelling that the Repbublicans are untrustworthy BECAUSE THEY ARE!

This double-cross, just the latest of many on this issue by the Republican elites who don't give a damn about the middle class, is probably the straw that broke the camel's back.

Like 1974, they can't take the lies and duplicity anymore, and they are going to stay home. Until now, there was hope, and the election might have been close. Now it will be a disaster. A 50 seat loss in the House and an 8 seat loss in the Senate can be expected. Let's see how traitors like Warner and McCain and Hagel and Graham like life in the permanent minority. (Actually, they have acted as if they were in the minority the last 12 years, so it shouldn't bother them too much.)

Who cares if the Democrats take over and the war is lost if in 30 years America will resemble Mexico? With the Republican elites in concert with the Democrats screwing the hardworking conservative middle class, let's throw in the towel and start living off the welfare state. Except for the occasional riot, Paris is still pretty in the spring.

52 posted on 10/06/2006 12:35:27 PM PDT by oldbill
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