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1 posted on 10/06/2006 1:42:53 AM PDT by beaversmom
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Let's look at the author, Andrea Otanez.

1995: Publishes pro-"migrant-worker" piece, touting a film celebrating the "University of Utah's Chicano Awareness month:" http://espinosa.siteutopia.net/productions/earthslt.htm

2001: Co-hosts a panel discussion at the "Society of Environmental Journalists'" annual conference. Discussion is titled "THE CRAFT: Getting the Right Play for Your Story:" http://www.sej.org/confer/port/agenda.htm

Things that make you go "Hmmmmmm"

41 posted on 10/06/2006 3:53:10 AM PDT by matt1234
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Women are beautiful, no way I am going to stop looking at them. But I will not "leer" at them. I don't wish to make anyone uncomfortable, I see nothing wrong with a discreet glance. If someone is offended by that, they need to "get thee to a nunnery".

I will make a conscious effort NOT to look at women if I am with my wife, even though it doesn't bother her if I do. I just think it is disrespectful to her. But she has a sense of humor, and we are both people watchers, so she will often nudge me to point out a particularly striking woman...I do the same to her for men...:)

She has often said to me "I married you...I didn't scratch your eyes out..." What a woman!

I always hold doors open for people. Everyone. If they don't say thank you, well...that is their problem. I will sometimes say to them in an audible voice "You're Welcome!"

I do give up my seat on busses and trains to elderly people, male and female. Young women (under the age of sixty) I have found get VERY offended if you offer it, so I don't unless it is a woman with children. The fact that it seems like it is unusual to do says something about society.

My parents taught me to address all men as "Sir" and all ladies as "Ma'am". And I do without failure or hesitation.

"Please" and "Thank You" are obligatory. I take them seriously.


43 posted on 10/06/2006 3:59:21 AM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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And by the way...the woman who wrote this article creeps ME out. She seems like someone who washes her hands excessively...

She sounds like the "leer" police...walking around, taking notes and pictures of men looking at women and posting them on a website or something.

Like that creepy Code Pink woman I saw outside Walter Reed Hospital taking pictures of Freepers license plates to post with other personal information on the Internet.

Any grown woman who refers to men as "icky" needs to avert her eyes...


45 posted on 10/06/2006 4:04:36 AM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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Related only in idea to www.hollabacknyc.com and similar blogs in other urban areas,
the site encourages people harassed in public (especially women) to take digital photos of offenders and post them on the site

We already have "hate" crime laws - how long before "looking" becomes a crime too? Freakin' Libs.
50 posted on 10/06/2006 4:31:55 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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Maybe I just look at things wrong. When I had to walk to work in downtown Ft. Worth, with all the construction going on at the time, and the construction workers yelled and whistled and acted like they do in the movies. I just waved and said mornin boys!

I felt it was harmless and that it gave them a little second of fun and relief from the hard work they were doing, they seemed to think I was a good sport and never said anything really obscene, at least not within my ear shot. The worst thing they ever said to me was mornin gorgeous.
54 posted on 10/06/2006 4:54:25 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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I look, but put up a fascade of indifference. I always let women that I am not yet acquanted with set the tone. If they smile or speak, then so do I.

Everybody wins.


55 posted on 10/06/2006 4:55:45 AM PDT by Solamente (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out...)
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This stuff doesn't help the situation.


56 posted on 10/06/2006 4:59:36 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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This is so hypocritical. I get leered at by women all the time. Yeah, I admit it gets a little uncomfortable at times (ie when its a female boss), but it isn't a big deal.


58 posted on 10/06/2006 5:04:58 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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Feminist drivel.

Blame men for everything.....again.


She spouts like an ugly woman who is upset men DON'T see her as attractive.


59 posted on 10/06/2006 5:10:14 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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61 posted on 10/06/2006 5:11:29 AM PDT by dighton
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What a pile of crap.

We have several young female employees where I work. Quite often, they dress entirely inappropriately for a professional workplace.

I'm always amused by the "don't look at me but I'll dress like a tramp" school of thought.


62 posted on 10/06/2006 5:13:00 AM PDT by sauropod ("Work as if you were to live 100 Years, Pray as if you were to die To-morrow." - Ben Franklin)
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Don't dress like a Bratz doll and men won't leer. But if you wear it, we will look.


68 posted on 10/06/2006 5:40:55 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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I guess women spend all the time doing their hair, putting on makeup, shaving their legs,picking out clothes,wearing painful high heels,etc., so nobody will look at them.


71 posted on 10/06/2006 5:46:45 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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Exhibitionists want to attract selected Voyeurs.
It doesn't work that way. Selected flashing is the answer .
79 posted on 10/06/2006 6:12:08 AM PDT by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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Maybe because I'm the mother of two young girls I've become an observer of men ogling teenage girls. They do it all the time, no matter what the teenagers are wearing or what they are doing. I find myself superimposing my kid on those teenagers' bodies and I get creeped out.

I'm not supporting "leering" as she describes it, but in regard to teenage girls, many of them dress like little prostitutes. Then they wonder why men leer at them.

82 posted on 10/06/2006 6:49:48 AM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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90 posted on 10/06/2006 9:01:48 AM PDT by EveningStar
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They do it all the time, no matter what the teenagers are wearing

Umm, no. Maye some real pervs but the majority need some encouragement.
94 posted on 10/06/2006 9:16:07 AM PDT by BJClinton (Celebrate diversity: re-elect Congressman Foley!)
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Victorian morals were there for a reason. I hope the Left are happy at the consequences of undoing them.

Regards, Ivan

106 posted on 10/06/2006 2:29:48 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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Let me leave you with a thought that most honestly summarizes my sentiments: I love the women's movement...especially when I am walking behind it.

--Rush Limbaugh

114 posted on 10/06/2006 3:56:56 PM PDT by cynwoody
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That'll be my daughter buying the bag of Kettle Korn....

Indeed. I don't know who invented the trend or if it is just sheer laziness, but most of the teen girls I see today look like dumpy frumps.

Overweight seems to be the first rule. The second is no style. No style in the hair - just tie your dirty hair back in a rough bun and you're set for the day (and the next, and the next). No makeup.

Dirty jeans and shapeless sweatshirt complete the look, with a few tattoos and piercings thrown in for good measure (if you're old enough).

It's hard to imagine any boys being attracted to them. And vice-versa. The boys adopted the prison/rap look over twenty years ago. Bad parenting may be a key point.
115 posted on 10/06/2006 5:31:20 PM PDT by Bars4Bill (IslamoLogic: If you call me violent I will kill you.)
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