Foley Won't Depress GOP Turnout

RUSH: (story) "Newt Gingrich said yesterday that Denny Hastert handled this whole situation appropriately and dismissed a call for Hastert's resignation by the Washington Times. 'I don't agree with that,' Newt said. 'I think it's very premature, very inappropriate.' Gingrich was in Lexington, Kentucky, to give a speech to the University of Kentucky Sanders Brown Center On Aging Foundation." Hastert's getting some support someplace. LA Times story today: "Foley Scandal Shakes GOP." This is by Janet Hook and Ronald Brownstein. "Hastert, who was elevated to his post during the turmoil caused by the sex scandal involving President Clinton on Tuesday shrugged off calls to quit. 'I'm not going to do that,' he said, during an appearance on conservative commentary Rush Limbaugh's radio show, but there was no consensus among conservative leaders that Hastert or other House GOP leaders should step down."

Notice how the template just easily gets placed out there. Somebody says Hastert should go, and it becomes the whole focus of the day of the Drive-By Media. "Limbaugh, during his show Tuesday, charged that much of the furor over Hastert was fueled by Democrats who wanted to suppress conservative turnout in November." Yes, I did "charge that," but it's true. There is no question that that's all this is about: suppressing conservative turnout. That's the only way the Democrats have any hope of winning. "Other prominent conservative voices, including Focus on the Family, the Wall Street Journal editorial page, rejected the idea that any GOP leader should resign." Mr. Snerdley told me today that he thinks I was the driving force yesterday that kept a parade of weak-kneed conservative organizations from jumping on board the Hastert resignation message.

See, Republicans and conservatives are conflicted over this, and the conflict derives from only looking at it in one way, and that is: "Oh, my God! We have a creep and a pervert in our party and we stand for what? He's gotta go, and anybody that had even the slightest knowledge, clear 'em out of there. We can't afford this," and that's understandable. But they fail or don't attach enough importance to the political tactics, the strategy, the tactical effort that this is by Democrats to take out Republican leaders -- and every time somebody demands a Republican resign, if we're going to say, "Yep, yep, yep! Okay. We'll quit," it's just bad. I mean, Foley's gone! Foley's been gone since Friday and yet this story survives. The story survives because it's only about using this to continue to get Republicans to quit and get out of there, on the basis of "doing the right thing" or what have you.

The right thing has been done. Foley is gone! Denny Hastert didn't send any instant messages that I know of. Denny Hastert didn't send any of these e-mails. Denny Hastert didn't do any of this! As Hastert himself as said, somebody's known about this for a number of years. He didn't, but somebody has and all these holier-than-thou people stepping forward saying they do this for the children couldn't have cared less against possible sex crimes against children. Here's a story by Charlotte Raab from the French News Agency: "A roiling sex scandal that led to the resignation of a prominent Republican lawmaker has left the party fearing conservative voters may sit out next month's crucial midterm elections, as President George W. Bush said he was 'disgusted' by the affair."

Yeah. This is also the template. You people, you are so outraged you are going to stay home. You know, if people don't show up, I'm going to tell you what it is. I've said this I don't know how many times. If the Republicans lose this election, do you know what the main issue is going to be? Remember what I said, Snerdley? What's the main issue going to be? What will it be? Illegal immigration. That's the "roiling" issue out there. If these people inside the Beltway and in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco, would get out into the middle of the country or the southern part of California and just get out there and find out what's on people's minds -- school shootings in Pennsylvania and all over -- there are people that are distressed over a whole bunch of things, has nothing to do with this Foley business. Illegal immigration. They're upset at other things with Congress.

If there was a possibility that conservative voter turnout would be suppressed, it's already been done! If anything this is going to rally people back to the polls because they've seen this so many times in the last 15 years. They know what it is. They're fed up with it. I think these guys are just totally 180 degrees out of phase on this. Like the Chicago Tribune, and this is Hastert's paper: "Hastert's Image, Party's Moral Stance at Risk as the Mark Foley Scandal Ignites DC, the GOP Base Wants Answers from the Top." You know, the Republican base was waiting to sit this out anyway, and that's been a strategy that the Democrats have been trying to play for the longest time. It's always been a question of turnout for this election. There's nothing new about that. They're trying to suggest that this somehow is going suppress turnout.

There's an ongoing effort -- town to town, city to city, Drive-By Media outlet by Drive-By Media outlet -- to suggest that it's already happened. I mean, they've already taken the poll. You people have already told them you aren't voting. You are fed up. You have had it. What did we bet yesterday, Snerdley? We bet that this guy Negron would win the election in Foley's district. Oh, yeah, we can't say what we bet. I remember now. We can't say what we bet. Well, at any rate, we've got that bet. You agree or not? He disagrees. You think the Democrats win the seat. See, Snerdley has no hope. Snerdley, he gets caught up. He watches C-SPAN and all this stuff all day long. I get away from it. I went down to Miami yesterday; I'm thinking about -- I can't say this or I won't get it. Never mind. (laughing) I almost blew it. No, I'm looking at perhaps renting a suite for the Super Bowl, because it's in Miami.

So I went down there, took a look at the stadium. You know what? I got down there, and I saw all these TV trucks and I said "Who leaked the fact that I'm coming here?" and I found out it wasn't me, thankfully. I was able to sneak in a side entrance in their loading dock and up an elevator to the 300 level at Dolphin Stadium. They fired the manager down there, the Marlins did, Joe Girardi, and they hired a new manager, third base coach from the Atlanta Braves: Fredi Gonzalez. That's what all the media hubbub was about down there. So when I saw that it wasn't about me I was free to walk in and out of there. But I get away from this stuff. Snerdley is totally affected by the media bubble all the time and he's convinced that the Republicans have lost Foley's seat. I am not.

I think the turnout in Foley's district may surprise people on the Republican side, particularly if the Democrats don't let go of this, and if there is more to come spurting out and if there's another thing that happens on Friday or whatever these October surprises are. I'm telling you, there's rage and anger out there at the Democrats. The media never reports it. The media never talks about how much anger there is at the Democrats even on their side -- other than when they talk about some of the blogs on the left and how upset they are that the Democrats are not sufficiently anti-war, but other than that... I mean, there's a lot of discord in the Democratic Party. There's a lot of unhappiness. But there's no such thing as total unity on the Democrat side. There's anger there, but it's never reported. The raging anger at the Drive-By Media and willing accomplices in the Democratic Party felt by conservative Republicans is something never accurately measured by the Drive-By Media and the Democrats, other than, you know, they give lip service to it by calling us "angry white men." Audio sound bite time. Last night, CNN, The Situation Room. Correspondent Peter Viles reporting on the Foley situation. Every network last night mentioned my interview with Hastert. Only one reporter, at CNN, got close to describing what I said correctly.

VILES: The man who pretty much invented conservative talk radio was urging his listeners to support Speaker Hastert and the Republican Party.

RUSH ARCHIVE: If you want to say good-bye to the Supreme Court actually having a fundamental change in its ideological orientation, if you want to say good-bye to all that, then fine. You go ahead and you encourage Hastert to resign and anybody else you think ought to resign, and then you encourage Republicans to lose.

RUSH: Yeah. This was in a discussion yesterday about Republicans and Hastert needing to fight back on the issues that really matter to people. People are not going to go to the polls on the basis of this Foley scandal. Some Democrats might, but what really matters to people is the future. You ever hear Democrats campaigning on the importance of Supreme Court nominations? They're not even doing that themselves. They are so bereft of any substance in this campaign, they're not even warning their voters about that. Now, they'll probably get to it once the '08 presidential race comes around, but this is just an effort by me to get the Republicans focused on issues. Go back on offense and tell the American people how precariously balanced the nation will be if Democrats do get power. Last night same show fill-in host John King, CNN, talks to Democrat commentator Bill Press. The question: "Who does it turn out, Bill, and who does this Foley scandal keep at home? What's your assessment?"

PRESS: What Mark Foley did was so repugnant, but the fact that there were five Republicans, three of them in the leadership, who knew about this five months ago, six months ago, maybe as much as a year ago[sic] and did nothing I think is worse than anything I've heard. For Hastert to go out there, and I heard him today on Rush Limbaugh's show, trying to change the subject and talk about Democrats are going to raise taxes...

RUSH: What about it, Bill? What's wrong? (Laughing) "It's not fair! It's not fair! We've got Hastert pinned down talking about Foley, and he tried to change the subject! All he wanted to talk about is how Democrats are gonna raise taxes." Bill, are you afraid of the truth? Are you afraid of people hearing the truth of what you're going to do if you win power? Let me ask you, Bill, what's the first thing Democrats in Congress are going to if they win power?

Is it going to make sure to flush out every sexual predator in the House, Republican and Democrat alike? Is that what they're gonna do, Bill? That's what you want us to believe. You want us to believe that Democrats are going to really, really, really ferret all this stuff out. "We're going to get the creeps. We're going to get the perverts. We're going to throw 'em out! We're going to clean the place up." I know Democrats aren't saying that, but they're making it sound like they're the guys to do it, which is another howler. We know you're going to raise taxes, Bill! Charlie Rangel is saying so.

If anything this is going to rally people back to the polls because they've seen this so many times in the last 15 years. They know what it is. They're fed up with it.

Yep, that's also the way I see it. Many Republicans who were thinking about sitting out will march to vote now.

1. How would any of this be at all different from the NEA sex education policy delivered to students via e-mail???

2. How would any of this be at all different from the ACLU constantly molesting the Boy Scouts in court?

3. How would any of this be at all different from a Gay Pride parade in downtown Anytown, USA???

4. How would any of this be at all different from having pornography accessible in public libraries???

5. How would any of this be at all different from having a potential presidential candidate who dresses up like a girl???

IT GETS CURIOUSER AND CURIOUSER..........

This morning's NPR news opened with a long report that it appears Republican "church going, conservative, pro-life" (a tag that was used repeatedly in the piece) voters won't blame their Congresscritter for Foley.

But the piece ended with the expression of some hope that if this scandal spread to the leadership of the House, them maybe some voters might stay home.

I took this report as consternation on the part of the reporter that the 14 voters "contacted by NPR for this report" weren't behaving according to the Democrat play book said they ought to behave.

It looks like the play book has now been changed to try to pin this in Hastert. I for one find it a real stretch to do so.

Buck, as Limbaugh said, this whole thing was leaked not to take down Foley or Haesert, but to suppress the GOP base.

The democrats cannot win national elections fairly during a War on terror, the only way is muckraking to suppress the GOP base.

The DEM base except for union thugs, are unreliable unless it is a Presidential year

Well there are some right here on FR who already decided if these liberals regain control of the peoples House that the wacko "Values" or morals voters will be responsible.

I find CURIOUS considering on Monday night I heard on one of the MSM outlets, a gleeful anticipation that Foley's sex life which the Republican leadership did not patrol would keep the morals voters home.

Further it has totally escape these that wait with baited anticipation to point once again their accusing finger at these perceived 'wackos', "VALUES", morals, purists voters, did not out Foley, and are not the ones obsessed with the perversion that has been shoved down our throats.

The liberals have exposed themselves in wanting the Republican leadership heads served up that perversion does not come without a price. Cause NOT one of them are taking up for Foley or his friends outing him!!!!

The Rs must stay focused. Like Bush.

Hammer home this simple message: To vote for a D, or to vote third party or to sit it out... is to put your kids' lives and your country at grave risk....

We must not get distracted. We must not get discouraged. AND WE MUST NOT PLAY INTO THE CLINTONS' HAND.

And it wouldn't hurt if we put them on the defensive in other ways, too. As someone who earned her stripes on the streets of New York, I'd like to see a little street fighter here.

One thing to remember, though....
In the privacy of the voting booth, with the lives of our children in the balance, even a few of the most radicalized crazies won't be able to pull that wobbly lever on the left.

We must keep hammering away: The Left is gonna get us killed.

'KILL BILL'
THE CLINTON-FOLEY NEXUS: A THEORY

Well there are some right here on FR who already decided if these liberals regain control of the peoples House that the wacko "Values" or morals voters will be responsible.

Here is one of them...

To: Blackirish

...we have a war to fight the hypocrisy stinks like a dead dog.

No hypochrisy on the part of the conservatives, they have been wanting to take out the RINO trash for years...

It is hypochrites like you who want to look the other way and you prove that right here:

I'll enjoy the fall by watching the Chicago Bears kick ass and ignore these threads.

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...this whole mess dramatically improves Rudy or Romney's chances.

It actually improves the prospects of not having a homo-friendly candidate in the GOP... go back to looking the other way and crying over your beer and football...

124 posted on 10/06/2006 2:42:33 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1713954/posts?page=124#124

Yes, one might think to get a clue what these liberals are willing to do to win elections.

Who would have ever thought that the liberal leader of the House would have ever come out and say that the Speaker of the House should have done more to protect the children from a gay?

No longer does "don't ask - don't tell apply!!! There is IMing evidence.

Shocking I tell you just shocking!!!!!

Yes, one might think to get a clue what these liberals are willing to do to win elections.

Here are a few clues to ponder:

IT GETS CURIOUSER AND CURIOUSER..........

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