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Top GOP leaders botched the Foley scandal
UnionLeader.com ^ | October 5, 2006 | Robert Novak

Posted on 10/04/2006 9:26:33 PM PDT by tennmountainman

AFTER IT WAS learned that Rep. Mark Foley had dispatched an inappropriate e-mail message to a 16-year-old male former page, the House Republican leadership was still urging him to seek re-election from his Florida district. He agreed. It was a success that surely will cost the Republicans Foley's seat in Congress and perhaps control of the House for the first time since the 1994 election.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: foley; reynolds
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To: ClaireSolt
Foley was a very good congressman, imho. Hate to see him disgraced

The mind boggles.....

21 posted on 10/04/2006 9:43:13 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: gb63
The original emailed page was not 16 and had already left the job. The emails are just unwise in wording.

You have GOT to be kidding me. First of all, the kid WAS 16. Second of all, now that we know Foley IS a sexual predator, the wording of the emails, which the kid described as "sick", was not just "unwise", it was clearly Foley trying to groom yet another young sex partner.

I cannot believe you people are trying to brush this aside.

23 posted on 10/04/2006 9:47:28 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
The liberals are attempting to prybar a political advantage out of this but I predict that in the next few days their carefully planted bomb will go off in their faces.

Don't be surprised if within the next few days all of this is forgotten as the Dems and their hacks in the media trot out some new set of allegations.

24 posted on 10/04/2006 9:47:30 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: ClaireSolt

Doesn't matter. This is a NON story.


25 posted on 10/04/2006 9:47:56 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: tennmountainman

Peddle it to CNN Novak, I'm not interested.


26 posted on 10/04/2006 9:48:21 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: tennmountainman

More crack-pipe smoking from Novak.


27 posted on 10/04/2006 9:48:51 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
Because a voter is repelled by Foley's shenanigans doesn't mean that they will abruptly abandon the GOP and embrace the party of gay marriage and abortion.

Heh-heh-heh! Rep. Mark Foley (D-FL)!
28 posted on 10/04/2006 9:51:50 PM PDT by Justice4Reds
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To: tennmountainman

Stick a fork in Novak he is done.


29 posted on 10/04/2006 9:52:04 PM PDT by YdontUleaveLibs
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To: tennmountainman

Personally, I think it would be helpful if all of the debauchery and corruption in the congress were well known to the electorate. Let the chips fall...


30 posted on 10/04/2006 9:52:09 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democrats. French, but more cowardly.)
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To: tennmountainman
Novak is posting tired old news about nothing...lol.

The Pajama Patrol has already unraveled this RAT contrived scandal.
31 posted on 10/04/2006 9:53:03 PM PDT by Beagle8U (I agree with the Demonrats.....All Queers must be removed from Congress! ( Its for the children))
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To: tennmountainman

Novak's an ass.

Hastert looked at the e-mails, the FBI looked at the e-mails, everyone said "I don't really see anything illegal here."

Novak et al are, as Ann said last night to Bill O'Reilly, "asking Hastert to have wire-tapped a Congressman when they don't even want us wire-tapping muslim terrorists."

What an ass.


32 posted on 10/04/2006 9:53:53 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: ClaireSolt
Novak needs to retire.

He definitely has screwed up bigtime lately, he knew of the Rat-Fitzpatric conspiracy to entrap Rove-Cheney--et all, and let it run. Now this "assessment" of Pubbies. The incompetent conservative is Novak.

33 posted on 10/04/2006 9:54:32 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Striving to obtain liberal victim status.)
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To: tennmountainman

Big mistake on your part for posting this. I haven't read the comments yet but I'm sure the Pubbie bots who put party above morality and everything else will crucify you for posting this thread.


34 posted on 10/04/2006 9:55:07 PM PDT by no dems (I'll take a moral Mormon over a demonic Democrat or repugnant RINO anyday.)
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To: gb63
I am glad Foley is leaving so another Republican can and will be elected.

I hope so, but, people have to pull the lever for Foley because his name is already on the ballot and Absentee Ballots have been mailed out.

Fox News interviewed Republicans in Foley's District today and many of them said, "I might not vote for the Democrat but I just cannot vote for the name of Foley on that ballot even though I know he's not running."
35 posted on 10/04/2006 9:59:17 PM PDT by no dems (I'll take a moral Mormon over a demonic Democrat or repugnant RINO anyday.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Novak knows the man was 18 when the salacious IM's were sent
 
Plame told him all the salacious details.../sarc

36 posted on 10/04/2006 10:00:38 PM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Re:9, Yep, there is a pattern.

Maybe leftieism is a disease you can catch by sitting amongst a bunch of 'em on Sunday Pundit TV.

37 posted on 10/04/2006 10:01:51 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Striving to obtain liberal victim status.)
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To: JohnnyZ

The Louisiana boy from Rep. Alexander's district would have been 16 or over when appointed. It seems he may have completed his service and left when he got the "unwise" emails. You and I agree that Foley seems to have been looking for a score with a young man. We both agree he should be gone from the Congress. But, I hope you also agree that he is being removed at this particular time by a political dirty trick. We cannot brush that aside either.


38 posted on 10/04/2006 10:03:24 PM PDT by gb63
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To: tennmountainman

First, Foley was, and is, a scaly geek. Whether he's also a criminal... doesn't seem to me to be worth the pettifogging it's getting. He was a geek, he needed to go. He's gone, so what's the problem?

If the GOP loses the House it will not be because Mark Foley was a scaly geek, a 50-something lecher who wants to seduce teenagers (whether they're "this"teen or "that"teen is kind of immaterial when I put it that way, isn't it?) It's just as scaly when it's a straight guy.

I mean, I am younger than Foley, and thumpingly heterosexual, but I really can't see myself in my horniest imaginable state sending racy IMs or emails to 16-to-18-year-old girls. What on earth would we talk about? (Maybe that's why the selection of subject matter in the Foley documents is so... narrow).

No, if the GOP loses the house it will be because the GOP leadership, Hastert, DeLay, Boehner, and their cronies, threw it away. They were more interested in lining their own pockets and the plush pockets of their friends than it showing leadership. They had numerous opportunities to reform but they were too busy rakin' it in. When they elected Boehner to replace DeLay -- elected "Mr K Street" who is known as a spineless puppet of lobbyists -- they pretty much said, "the electorate is stupid, and we have a lock on this entitlement."

If they lose the house it will be because, with the house in hand in 1994, the key provision of the Contract With America -- term limits -- was thrown out.

In very few details was the Republican congress of the last 12 years superior to its Democratic predecessor, and by 2006 it had become almost indistinguishable.

"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."

Sorry about this, for those of you who are faithful Republicans. But to me it is more important that a Congressman not be a creep than it is that he be a political ally.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F


39 posted on 10/04/2006 10:08:46 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (Build more lampposts... we've got plenty of traitors.)
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To: Criminal Number 18F

So Foley resigned what is the problem? No one is suggesting one become an ally of Foley quite the opposite. FYI Hastert in this case did nothing wrong.


40 posted on 10/04/2006 10:19:38 PM PDT by YdontUleaveLibs
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