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Fox warns over Russian military - UK underestimates threat to its future security posed by Russia
BBC ^ | 3 October 2006

Posted on 10/04/2006 2:04:09 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

The UK underestimates the threat to its future security posed by Russia, shadow defence secretary Liam Fox has warned.

Addressing a fringe meeting at the Conservative Party conference, Dr Fox claimed Russia was increasing its defence spending this year by 25%.

It was also testing more long range missiles and pouring money into two naval bases in Syria, he added.

That, together with Iran's military build-up, justified replacing Britain's Trident nuclear weapons system.

Dr Fox said the Tories were committed to replacing Trident nuclear weapons and, with so much uncertainty in the world, he warned against embarking on a "potentially lethal experiment in unilateral disarmament".

He said Iran and Russia pose the most serious "potential threats to our interests".

Missiles

He said Russian President Vladimir Putin had spoken recently "of having armed forces capable of fighting a global, regional and, if necessary, a few local conflicts".

The shadow minister said he had been "amazed" by how little coverage Russia's new military build-up has received in the Western media.

He said the country was spending 25% more on defence this year than last year and is testing new inter-continental ballistic missiles, and ordering new frigates for its navy, equipped with cruise missiles.

The Russians have also reportedly invested in two Syrian ports, he added.

If they switch their Black Sea fleet there it would be their first Mediterranean base since the 1950s, said Dr Fox, who repeated his warning in a speech in the main conference hall at the Bournemouth conference centre.

'Influence'

He also said that, along with North Korea and China, Russia had helped Iran to develop ballistic missiles with a range up to 4,000 kilometres which "could attack US and British forces in the region".

And he warned of the economic power being wielded by Russian gas giant Gazprom, which he said was controlled by "extremely questionable oligarchs and politicians".

If President Putin went on to be the head of Gazprom after stepping down as Russian president, he would be able to wield a "great deal of influence" over neighbouring states, Dr Fox told the meeting.

"It might turn out President Putin is a cuddly bunny. It might turn out that he is not. We should be in the risk business," he added.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: armsrace; liamfox; syria

1 posted on 10/04/2006 2:04:10 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Someone ought to persuade Putin to use his military for "good." Personally, I would not object if he invaded Iran, even North Korea or Pakistan.


2 posted on 10/04/2006 2:06:33 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Tailgunner Joe


Why is this guy "amazed" at the lack of coverage of Russia's military build up by the western media....the western media are a bunch of commie, tyrant, sympathizers...


3 posted on 10/04/2006 2:08:35 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: nw_arizona_granny

FYI


4 posted on 10/04/2006 2:10:03 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: Brilliant

Russia invading oil rich Iran? Then what stops it from invading Iraq a few years later to put down the "Terrorist Threat to Mother Russia"? Do you think Russia would be a benevolent power controlling all that oil?


5 posted on 10/04/2006 2:24:52 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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To: spikeytx86

Are you suggesting that Iran is a benevolent power?


6 posted on 10/04/2006 3:51:28 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
Hardly, but Russia is ran by a hardliner who wants to deliver a little humble pie to America because of the humiliation the "Motherland" suffered at the end of the cold war. He would be just as bad as president tom with all that oil. Mind you Putin would not only have the vast oil supplies of Russia but those of Iran as well.

I would prefer no nut jobs be in control of Iran:-)
7 posted on 10/04/2006 10:07:04 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

More and more Russians, reading foreign press and comments of the western readers, start to be convinced, that the USA the enemy, the cold, severe, spiteful opponent.

If so will go and further the conflict is inevitable.
Interestingly, what it to live on a radioactive asteroid?


8 posted on 10/05/2006 12:59:15 AM PDT by Semargl (http://mediactivist.ru/action/5/22)
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To: spikeytx86

I think Russia is easier to deal with than Iran. And Russia can't hold onto Iran forever. It might hold onto it long enough to shut down its nuke program.


9 posted on 10/05/2006 4:49:22 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Semargl

It is quite inevitable, because Americans are disgusted by the stupid violent behavior of the current Russian regime, and we have no intention of backing down to your pathetic attempts to intimidate us. If Russia continues on its present course of neo-imperialist blackmail and aggression, then Russia is indeed our enemy and will be treated as such.


10 posted on 10/05/2006 11:53:15 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Brilliant
If Russia invaded Iran there would be no guarantees that it would go down like Afghanistan in the 80's. That was because the Afghan Mujahadeen were armed to the teeth with the latest in American goodies and there is no guarantee that we would do the same this time around. The people who would be fighting the Russians this time around would be the same people who committed 9/11 and there ain't no way in hell public support would be there for arming TERRORISTS regardless of there enemy. It's not 1985 anymore and Putin's Russia ain't the soviet union.
12 posted on 10/06/2006 1:31:43 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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To: spikeytx86
Also, we are forgetting Putin is quite comfortable with a belligerent Iran. Iran is fueling the insurgency in Iraq and Putin is loving every bit of the perceived humiliation to the United States with the situation in Iraq. He sees it as payback for Afghanistan and is more then likely funneling intelligence,arms,and cash through Iran and Syria to the insurgency. His country is also making a butt load of cash off of arms sales to Iran. There is also the fact that even if interested I don't think his forces have the capabilities or even morale for that matter of conquering all of Persia, and Putin knows this and would not risk defeat and humiliation over it. Because if he sent his forces into Iran and encountered an Iraq situation to the 10th power the United States could invoke the carter doctrine and enter Iran to "protect the Iranian people and our National Interest in the region" and expel what is left of the rusting Russian armed forces giving American forces true liberators status among the population giving us the ability to put in a US friendly regime and further consolidate our influence and presence in what Russia perceives as its own "Sphere of Influence" and dealing Russia a humiliation surpassing that of Afghanistan.
13 posted on 10/06/2006 1:42:53 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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