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3rd Lawmaker Says Hastert Knew About Lewd E-Mails (Story is false: Lawmaker has already rescinded)
International Herald Tribune ^ | October 4, 2006 | associated press

Posted on 10/04/2006 1:55:16 PM PDT by gopwinsin04

Edited on 10/04/2006 2:10:11 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

UPDATE: See updated article, posted before this one.
Alexander backs off claim Hastert knew
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WASHINGTON A third figure in the page scandal threatening to envelop the House speaker, J. Dennis Hastert, suggested Wednesday that the speaker knew of an inappropriate e-mail message that Representative Mark Foley had sent to a Louisiana boy before the matter became public.

Representative Rodney Alexander, the Louisiana Republican who sponsored the page at the heart of the furor, said Hastert "knew about the e- mails that we knew about," including one in which Foley asked the page to send his picture.

The speaker has said he was not aware of the e-mail messages when they were discussed with his staff. The No. 2 House Republican, Representative John Boehner of Ohio, and the House Republican campaign chairman, Representative Tom Reynolds of New York, said they had spoken with Hastert about a complaint concerning a former page from Louisiana last spring, after Alexander told them about it.

Hastert's position did not change after Alexander's comments. "The speaker's staff knew about this; the speaker didn't," said his spokesman, Ron Bonjean.

Alexander asserted on Fox News that Hastert's knowledge was limited to e- mail messages that made the page uncomfortable - not the salacious instant messages Foley is reported to have made to pages.

The chairmen of two coalitions of social and fiscal conservatives in Congress rallied behind Hastert as some other conservatives demanded that he step down.

But the House majority whip, Roy Blunt, Republican of Missouri, said he would have done things differently. Although he did not criticize Hastert, his remarks in Springfield, Missouri, were no endorsement of the speaker's actions.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Florida; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2006election; drivebymedia; election2006; fakebutaccurate; foley; foleygate; gobbelswouldbeproud; howtostealanelection; lyingliars; thebiglie; whispercampaign
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1 posted on 10/04/2006 1:55:19 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04

Alexander has already backed off this story.


2 posted on 10/04/2006 1:56:10 PM PDT by babaloo
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To: gopwinsin04

A little behind the curve here. Alexander has already recanted this statement.


3 posted on 10/04/2006 1:56:22 PM PDT by msnimje (Seriously, if it REALLY were a religion of PEACE, would they have to label it as such?)
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To: gopwinsin04
yeah, and didn't liberal newspapers, etc., know about the emails too? the point is not that they knew about the emails, but the instant messages, which were the real disease. people should understand the difference. i thought the fbi looked at them too and said no crime was committed.

that said, there seems to have been a pattern of behavior here. they should have pushed him out earlier.

4 posted on 10/04/2006 1:58:53 PM PDT by wildwood
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To: gopwinsin04
Liberals and their media are really desperate, aren't they? Do they really believe that this stupid story is going to make them control Congress? We are fortunate that our political opponents are very stupid.
5 posted on 10/04/2006 1:59:44 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: gopwinsin04
This is old news. The GOP is now in the process of handing the Democrats a major defeat and as for FOLEY.... he resigned... now time to focus on defeating the Terrorist and the Democrats. Or was I being redundant?
6 posted on 10/04/2006 2:03:40 PM PDT by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: gopwinsin04
Hastert knew about the e-mails. He even said so. According to FOX News Live today, the boys parents said Hastert did exactly what they asked him to do. He stopped the e-mails.
The question is - who knew about the explicit homo instant messages? That's what needs to come out. So far, the homos on the far left knew all about them but refused to report it to the Feds. They allowed it to continue.
7 posted on 10/04/2006 2:04:13 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: gopwinsin04

Are they speaking of the same emails that the St. Petersburg Times and the Miami Herald knew about?


8 posted on 10/04/2006 2:04:25 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: wildwood

The email shopper showed the emails -- exactly what Alexander, et al. saw -- to the Miami Herald and they declined to print the story.


9 posted on 10/04/2006 2:07:41 PM PDT by AmishDude (, professional mathematician.)
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To: gopwinsin04
Repeat after me media and congress people:

Old (known about) overly friendly Emails are different from explicit (newly learned about) IM's

Old (known about) overly friendly Emails are different from explicit (newly learned about) IM's

Old (known about) overly friendly Emails are different from explicit (newly learned about) IM's

10 posted on 10/04/2006 2:08:35 PM PDT by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: dawn53

The e-mails were suggestive, but nothing more. They're not the issue. The issue is the IM's. Only someone in the homo chat group would know about them, and that person hasn't come forward. The left wing homo lobby is reportedly trying to destroy Republicans, but thats all anyone knows so far.


11 posted on 10/04/2006 2:09:33 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: concerned about politics
The question is - who knew about the explicit homo instant messages? That's what needs to come out. So far, the homos on the far left knew all about them but refused to report it to the Feds. They allowed it to continue.

It's worth noting congressional pages are and more mature and sophisticated than the average 16-17-year-old, and also much more interested in politics. Whichever page saved those IM logs knew exactly what he was doing and probably had visions of becoming a 'Rat version of what Karl Rove is supposed to be.

12 posted on 10/04/2006 2:09:52 PM PDT by cynwoody
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It's worth noting congressional pages are and more mature and sophisticated than the average 16-17-year-old, and also much more interested in politics.

The Feds can't seem to find any broken laws, either. It's a "Homosexual right" to mount a 16 year old.

FBI's Foley Case Eyes Legal 'Gray Area'

13 posted on 10/04/2006 2:15:36 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: concerned about politics

My point was, if they're the same emails as the papers saw(St. Pete Times and Miami Herald)...they didn't write a story because they didn't think there was anything "there"...in other words, they must not have been "lewd" or the left leaning papers would have run with them.

I was also unaware, until this story broke, that you could save IM's. Guess you learn something new everyday.


14 posted on 10/04/2006 2:18:35 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: jveritas

If they told America that their main efforts in 2007 would be "cut and run in Iraq" and "Impeachment of Bush and Cheney", they wouldn't get the votes to win.


15 posted on 10/04/2006 2:34:17 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: dawn53
I was also unaware, until this story broke, that you could save IM's. Guess you learn something new everyday.

If he saved his IM's (right click in the corner, File/save as) through AIM (AOL), anyone can retrieve them who has free access to his computer. Yahoo needs a password to get into the message archive. There's MSM and others as well. I'm not sure about those.
Besides, who the heck bothers to save IM's? There must have been a "reason" they were saved. Some one would need access to his computer while it was logged on to find them.

16 posted on 10/04/2006 2:34:56 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: dawn53

You can save IMs.

Question is, who saved them and how did they get to Democrat operatives? Hackers? Handed over by the page?


17 posted on 10/04/2006 2:35:10 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: concerned about politics

Don't need a password to recover Yahoo IMs saved as text.

"Conversation - Save as - im.txt" is the default (at least on my systems).

If someone else snooped someone's computer for files, who snooped and who's computer?


18 posted on 10/04/2006 2:37:45 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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Question is, who saved them and how did they get to Democrat operatives?

That person knew they existed. That's the person who needs to be found.

19 posted on 10/04/2006 2:37:56 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: weegee
If someone else snooped someone's computer for files, who snooped and who's computer?

And who was that person that covered it up until now? It wasn't a Republican. We want to win this election.

20 posted on 10/04/2006 2:41:11 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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