Posted on 10/04/2006 11:01:30 AM PDT by calcowgirl
As Phil Angelides' chances of becoming California's next governor sink slowly in the west, the wonk talk is slowly turning to the possible effects of his electoral weakness on the down-ballot races.
The speculation isn't so much about whether moderate Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger's coattails are long enough to drag an unlikely conservative such as Tom McClintock in as lieutenant governor . . .
But the talk is less about the governor's strength than about Angelides' negative coattails: Is he so weak that many Democratic voters won't turn out at all? And if that happens, could Schwarzenegger's relative strength ironically weaken his chances of passing the four infrastructure bonds that are a central part of his 2006 agenda? . . .
In any case, since a high proportion of the support for the bonds comes from Democrats, Angelides' weakness could undermine Schwarzenegger's cause. None of the bonds has the support of a majority of Republican voters. Republicans oppose their governor's education bonds by a 56 percent to 34 percent margin. If he campaigns hard for the bonds, as he promised, will Schwarzenegger be helping Angelides?
. . . the speculation about Angelides' drag on the down-ballot candidates is itself evidence that, contra the conventional wisdom, California is neither as permanently Democratic nor as liberal as political folklore sometimes has it.
In our presumably immutable Democratic era, California voters have recalled a Democratic governor; passed a ballot measure prohibiting same-sex marriage; overwhelmingly rejected an attempt to reduce the two-thirds legislative margin necessary to pass the budget or raise taxes; rejected an initiative to require that the third strike in the state's "three-strikes" sentencing law be a serious felony; and passed an initiative designed to eliminate bilingual education. Proposition 13, of course, remains sacrosanct.
(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...
Hopefully it can take Nicole Perra Down. She is claiming that he an Gilmore retire with one of those "special packages" but has not info to back it up what she means by "special packages".
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
In our presumably immutable Democratic era, California voters have recalled a Democratic governor; passed a ballot measure prohibiting same-sex marriage; overwhelmingly rejected an attempt to reduce the two-thirds legislative margin necessary to pass the budget or raise taxes; rejected an initiative to require that the third strike in the state's "three-strikes" sentencing law be a serious felony; and passed an initiative designed to eliminate bilingual education. Proposition 13, of course, remains sacrosanct.
Maybe some of the "best you can do in California" folks will read this and take note.
Mainly a Mexican government in exile.
He sounds like ElkGroveDan.
"... four infrastructure bonds that are a central part of his 2006 agenda? . . .
In any case, since a high proportion of the support for the bonds comes from Democrats,..."
Well, at least someone understand years and years of financial missmanagement by the leftists in Congress and their only agenda is to pile on more debt to the taxpayers.
Yep! I've often seen you post similar words (and theme)... that is why your name ended up first on my ping!
"California is neither as permanently Democratic nor as liberal as political folklore sometimes has it."
You self-styled "pragmatic" FReepers need to absorb what this Liberal Columnist in the State Capitol's newspaper in the italicized paragraph just above. It's TRUE!!!
So stop flicking your boogers at CA and laughing at what you seem to think is a hopeless situation. It wasn't when Ronald Reagan beat Jerry Brown's dad and by golly, it isn't today, either!!!
California has a wheel in the ditch and a wheel on the track....
Its only a matter of time before the Democrats do to themselves, what they did at the national level.
Pragmatic is one of the most misused words in politics. It was created by Soviet communists as a polite way to say "the ends justify our means." I hope that it's not applicable to many freepers, only those who would consider Tom McClintock to be an "unlikely conservative."
I certainly hope you're right.
That's what I'm hoping for. I'm voting for Aaaahnold, but not for his bond measures. (I never vote for any bond measures, no matter how noble a cause their supporters claim to have.) Sacramento takes in more than enough to cover reasonable expenditures. They have a lot of crap to cut out before I'll believe they need more tax revenue. I'm already up to my ass in their debts.
Amen. Me neither. They are stealth taxes.
While there are enough reasonable Californians to hold on to some conservative gains and policies, they are helpless against Stalinist judges that riddle the state and leftist bureaucrats that are allowed to judge shop in court.
We are in serious trouble and the protection around all conservative policies is being eroded incrementally.
The heart of the problem is that liberal lefties don't have to obey the law but conservatives do, and the judges make sure of it.
I am not sure what you mean. Whatever Tom may be, an "unlikely conservative" is not one of them. I don't know of anyone who has ever questioned his conservative credentials. Maybe I don't get out enough.
We are going to vote and not for any democRATS
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