[Dracian]

They are unwilling to accept that a person can be harmed emotionally or spiritually.

The problem isn't unwillingness. The problem is that such a claim is so wide open you can drive a giant planet through it. It's the same muckity muck that every crying liberal proclaims. It just turns into a battle of who will rule over who.

[Trailerpark Badass]

The problem isn't unwillingness. The problem is that such a claim is so wide open you can drive a giant planet through it. It's the same muckity muck that every crying liberal proclaims. It just turns into a battle of who will rule over who.

Amen, and it has surprised to find that there are "conservatives" who believe the government would be an able steward of this nation's "emotional" or "spiritual" health.

[nosofar]

It's the same muckity muck that every crying liberal proclaims. It just turns into a battle of who will rule over who.

I agree, which is why we need freedom not just for individuals, but individual communities to decide what this muckity muck will consist of (within certain broad limits) instead of just declaring any defense of anything you can't actually touch as anathema.