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Why the Russia-Georgia Spat Could Become a U.S. Headache (4K Russians w/shoot to kill order)
Time Magazine ^ | October 3, 2006 | YURI ZARAKHOVICH in Moscow

Posted on 10/04/2006 1:32:28 AM PDT by bd476

Analysis: Moscow wants to rein in its pro-NATO neighbor, and a spy scandal may have provided an opening

By Yuri Zarakhovich in Moscow

Russia has escalated its showdown with its small, NATO-inclined neighbor of Georgia by closing all transport and postal communications. No trains, no flights, no ships, no vehicles, no mail money orders — nothing can cross the border. This time, it's much worse than just another Russian spat with a former satellite state. The Georgia standoff may soon create a major headache for the Bush Administration, because of U.S. support for Georgia's right to align itself with the West.

Tuesday's announcement of the new measures came even after Georgia had handed over four Russian military intelligence officers accused of spying, and months of insults against Russia, threats to restore Georgia's sovereignty over its breakaway pro-Moscow provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, and also assaults on Russian personnel serving in Georgia. Moscow insists that Russia is the injured party, forced to retaliate.

But the crisis, spurred by some emotional and erratic outbursts from Georgia, may actually suit Moscow's agenda, since the deeper issue driving the conflict is Georgia's geopolitical orientation: Georgia has joined the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline that skirts Russia and ends its monopoly on transporting Caspian Sea oil to world markets; it has defied Moscow on a range of regional issues; and it is attempting to join NATO, presenting the Russian military brass with the prospect of a strategic rival strengthening its position along Russia's southern underbelly. In short, the crisis is an expression of Russia's failure to accept Georgia's independence.

To tighten the financial blockade, Russia's legislature on Wednesday will consider a bill banning all financial transfers to Georgia. Remittances sent home by some 1.2 million Georgians working in Russia currently amount to around $2 billion annually, around 20% of Georgia's GDP.

The Georgians certainly appeared intent on provoking the neighborhood hegemon last week when they made an ostentatious show of arresting the four Russian officers, threatening them with 20-year prison sentences and cordoning off Russian military headquarters in Tbilisi to demand the surrender of another Russian officer. Two groups of Russian servicemen were disarmed and beaten.

But Russia appeared more than ready for an escalation. Moscow recalled its ambassador, closed down its embassy and evacuated its personnel, and put its approximately 4,000 troops still in Georgia on high alert, ordering them to shoot to kill if they needed to defend themselves. "These people [Georgians] think that under the protection of their foreign sponsors they can feel comfortable and secure," intoned Russian President Vladimir Putin on Sunday in televised remarks. "Is it really so?"

Putin's jibe at the U.S. was transparent. And he stepped up his open support of the secessionist agenda of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, which had broken away from Georgia with Russian encouragement in the early 1990s and are treated by Russia as if they had been annexed: he had their leaders formally invited to a major Russian economic conference held close to the Georgian border on Sunday.

Sensing the danger in provoking Russian ire, the Georgians quickly backpedaled: The four arrested Russian officers were handed over to European diplomats, and they arrived in Moscow on Monday night. But instead of reciprocating with calming measures, the Kremlin appears to have seized on the opening offered by Georgia to press home a point.

Relations between Russia and Georgia grew strained even in the Soviet Union's last years when the then-Soviet Republic elected an ardent nationalist as president. The rift intensified during the breakup of the Soviet Union, when the Russian military helped Ossetian and Abkhaz separatists. And relations have deteriorated to a breaking point since the current government of Mikheil Saakashvili came to power in a popular uprising two years ago.

Georgia will be unlikely ever to tempt the breakaway regions back into the fold unless Tbilisi make that choice look more attractive to the Ossetians and Abkhaz than alignment with Russia. Saakashvili's heavy hints that he might force the issue has allowed Moscow to accuse the Georgian leadership of threatening aggression. And it has certainly helped President Vladimir Putin rally the Russian public behind a nationalist cause. A poll taken by the Moscow-based Echo Moskvy radio station late last month found that 40% of its typically liberal audience believe that Russia's national interests justify any hard line on Georgia. Such jingoism could work as smartly for Putin's as yet unnamed heir-designate as the Chechen war worked for Putin back in 1999 — that's if Putin feels sufficiently emboldened to risk reiterating Moscow's neighborhood supremacy by challenging what he sees as a U.S. proxy on his own turf.

Given the U.S. commitment to Georgia, the standoff raises a dilemma for the Bush Administration: Unless both Putin and Saakashvili are restrained, the spat that began with the arrest of four Russian officers could degenerate quickly into a real disaster.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aggression; commies; communists; fsb; georgia; kgb; putin; soviets
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When Putin puts 4,000 Russian soldiers stationed in Soviet Georgia on high alert with a shoot to kill order, it's a wee bit more than a "spat," Comrade Zarakhovich.

1 posted on 10/04/2006 1:32:29 AM PDT by bd476
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To: MarMema; Grzegorz 246; lizol; propertius
Ping!
Thank you for the link to this article, MarMema!

2 posted on 10/04/2006 1:37:02 AM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476
Vladimir Putin came in looking like a stable leader in Russia, and his 17% flat tax is wonderful.

But then he decided to remake Russia into the neo-Soviet Union.

Now what's up with that?

3 posted on 10/04/2006 1:42:45 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: bd476

It is a very daunting situation. Alarming.


4 posted on 10/04/2006 1:42:59 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: bd476
Sounds like a good time to ask the Georgians for an air base. Georgia is not far from Iran. And where would Iran's nuclear program be without Russian help?

Russia is not our friend.

5 posted on 10/04/2006 1:49:07 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Either we bring them freedom, or they destroy us.)
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To: DB; lizol
From Russia with Love...
Soviet Russian Diplomacy Ping.

6 posted on 10/04/2006 1:51:35 AM PDT by bd476
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To: MinorityRepublican

third world markets is what's up with that

that new Russian 4 door family care is awesome huh ?

the Russian stock market really rocked today huh ?

those new Russion fashions are so nice huh ?

they have as an economy , a military, a military
for sale , and war bombs and war pieces parts.

PootyPoot tried to make it appear different to the
west but really, his Pooty is pootin'


7 posted on 10/04/2006 1:51:36 AM PDT by advertising guy
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To: advertising guy

What would the consequences be if Putin declares war on Georgia?


8 posted on 10/04/2006 1:55:45 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: MinorityRepublican
MinorityRepublican wrote: "Vladimir Putin came in looking like a stable leader in Russia, and his 17% flat tax is wonderful. But then he decided to remake Russia into the neo-Soviet Union. Now what's up with that?"



1. Putin is facing the end of his career;
2. Putin has the old guard Soviet KGB/FSB breathing down his neck.
3. Putin/KGB = master of appearances deceit.

9 posted on 10/04/2006 1:59:20 AM PDT by bd476
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To: BlackVeil
BlackVeil wrote: "It is a very daunting situation. Alarming."

Yes, it sure is.

10 posted on 10/04/2006 2:01:28 AM PDT by bd476
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To: MinorityRepublican

if in fact it's shoot to kill as stated that is huge.

on another thread I just left, Russian was telling Poland
they better not harbor and US or other UN missle defense system there.

The world is choosing sides and to our detriment the yappin' drive by media tells the world we can't win a world wide war. We's to thin don't ya know ? And to boot a world wide war ? We Done.

This will require face to face stuff and failing that sanctions UN or no UN. Oh,and fast.


11 posted on 10/04/2006 2:01:49 AM PDT by advertising guy
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

As one ex-KGB officer put it, Russia and the US are neither allies nor enemies. They're rivals.


12 posted on 10/04/2006 2:09:42 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

As one ex-KGB officer put it, Russia and the US are neither allies nor enemies. They're rivals. Rivals can become enemies with provocation.


13 posted on 10/04/2006 2:10:46 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: advertising guy
Hmmmm so there is a global orchestrated attempt to Vietnamize Iraq.
14 posted on 10/04/2006 2:10:51 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: bd476

I wonder what right it is that Russia has 4,000 troops in Georgia, especially if they are unwelcome there?


15 posted on 10/04/2006 2:15:55 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Just mythoughts

no not that visual,this one, death by a thousand cuts (from a 100 people).

our way of life is the only country that can withstand a nuke war and survive . Three reasons are our military,our
democratic republic form of gubmint,and a viable economy based on real principles.

Now you throw a Clinton or a Kerry in there and hell yes

double time.


16 posted on 10/04/2006 2:17:14 AM PDT by advertising guy
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To: DB
DB wrote: "I wonder what right it is that Russia has 4,000 troops in Georgia, especially if they are unwelcome there?"

Just a guess here, but it is possible that Putin told Georgia "we are sending you some protection, for your own good."

17 posted on 10/04/2006 2:18:55 AM PDT by bd476
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To: Just mythoughts
Iraq, Iran, North Korea and Venezuela are all proxies for powers that want to weaken us and get us to retreat from the world no matter the cost to the people of those countries.
18 posted on 10/04/2006 2:18:56 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: advertising guy

I have to give them credit. The new UAZ Patriot is a pretty cool 4x4. Much better than the old UAZ 469. Much more consumer oriented.

http://patriot.uaz.ru/eng/


19 posted on 10/04/2006 2:21:35 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: MinorityRepublican
Vladimir Putin came in looking like a stable leader in Russia, and his 17% flat tax is wonderful.

But then he decided to remake Russia into the neo-Soviet Union.

Now what's up with that?

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My opinion:

Russia has been an imperial power at least since the time of Peter the Great in the 18th Century. Just to put that in perspective with American history, Peter was dead before George Washington was born. The political structure changed in 1917, but the imperial aspect did not.

In all that time the Russians/Soviets saw themselves as, oh, mentoring, guiding these smaller peoples. Imagine their shock in 1991 and after in discovering that these peoples in the former Soviet Republics didn't like them. Didn't like them a lot! The Russians are genuinely shocked, hurt and a somewhat angry about this. And Putin seems to believe that Russia has a right to intervene in the "near abroad", the Russian term for the former Soviet Republics.

If the Russians want to genuinely get along with these countries they will have to learn to stop interfering in their domestic affairs. Because where the Russians see themselves as a having a right to intervene, the former Soviets see Russian as a bear intent on controlling them and swallowing them again.

The different perceptions are what's driving this crisis.
20 posted on 10/04/2006 2:22:14 AM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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