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American Dien Bien Phu? (MEGA BARF ALERT)
The American Cause ^ | 3 Oct 06 | patrick j. buchanan

Posted on 10/03/2006 4:49:49 PM PDT by CWOJackson

What a spectacle America at war presents to the world.

A former president, red-faced, bawls his rage at Fox News' Chris Wallace, who had asked why he had not shut down bin Laden and Co. in the seven years he had to do it. The president of the United States declaims to a partisan audience in Alabama, "The Party of FDR and Harry Truman has become the party of cut and run."

Is this how the great republic fights and wins its wars?

America has taken on the aspect of France's Fourth Republic after the fall of Dien Bien Phu in 1954. Case in point: "State of Denial," by Bob Woodward of Watergate fame.

As White House press secretary Tony Snow said, the book is cotton candy. It melts in one's mouth. There seems to be little here that is new, shocking or significant. That confidential memos at State and the National Security Council conflicted with the rosier rhetoric of President Bush is hardly news to a nation, a majority of whose people now believe Iraq was a mistake. All it means is that our commander in chief has tried to maintain the morale of the home front.

Among other revelations, we learn that Robert Blackwill of the NSC sent a memo to Condi Rice arguing that 40,000 more troops were needed in Iraq, that George Tenet and J. Cofer Black of the CIA went to see Condi to warn her something big was up, two months before 9-11, that Chief of Staff Andy Card pushed to have Donald Rumsfeld replaced, that Kissinger met often with President Bush to insist that victory is the only real exit strategy. But Henry has been writing that in The Washington Post.

What is going on here?

People recently removed from power are leaking to Woodward to ensure that the first draft of history shows that their sage counsel had been ignored. They are scoring points off their own president, who once entrusted them with high office.

Among the more important revelations, however, is an unstated one. So badly are things going in Iraq that men who once had influence over U.S. war policy feel compelled to cut loose of that policy and of the policymakers: Bush, Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice. This book exposes their fear that America may be losing the war -- and their determination to swim clear of culpability before the ship goes down.

Of significant interest is the comment of Gen. Abizaid, Centcom commander, to two friends from Vietnam days: "We've got to get the (expletive) out of here," meaning out of Iraq.

Asked by his friends about his victory strategy, Abizaid replied, "That's not my job." A jolting comment indeed from the general who is to lead us to victory.

Unlike history, Woodward's books are fast-paced, frothy reads that reward his sources by heroizing them and paint those who decline to confess to Bob as obtuse, oblivious to what's going on. In earlier books, when things appeared to be going well in Iraq and Afghanistan, this White House collaborated, and was rewarded. Almost all emerged as sagacious and strong. This time, Woodward met with closed doors.

Understandably, for things are not going well in Afghanistan or Iraq, though we do not need another book to tell us that. The question that needs answering is: What do we do now?

According to the National Intelligence Estimate, leaked to The New York Times and partially declassified last week, our intel agencies believe the U.S. invasion of Iraq has so inflamed the Arab and Muslim world it has spawned terrorism. Yet, the same NIE argues that a too-rapid withdrawal could mean collapse of the Iraqi regime, triumph for the jihadists and a calamity for the United States.

But, then, we did not need the NIE to tell us that, either. For the American public, 60 percent of whom believe Iraq was a mistake, also opposes immediate withdrawal, fearing the disaster of which the NIE warns.

Still, the Woodward book, the NIE and the savagery of this campaign seem certain to create a crisis for Bush after November.

How, after all, when one's former aides are telling Woodward the White House and the Pentagon blundered in their management of the war, does one convince the American people they did not?

How, after Bush has called the Democratic Party a cut-and-run crowd, and Democrats have accused the White House and Pentagon of being incompetents in fighting the war in Iraq, does one ask for and receive bipartisan support to stay the course?

What do our troops in Iraq, who risk their lives every day, think when they read that their commanding general believes, "We've got to get the (expletive) out of here," and that a victory strategy is "not my job."

France's defeat at Dien Bien Phu in Indochina lead to a second war of national liberation in Algeria, the fall of the Fourth Republic and the call for Gen. de Gaulle to assume power. The general did, and he rang down the curtain on the French Empire.

Are we facing an American Dien Bien Phu?


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: buchanan; goawaypatgoaway; gopatgoaway; mullahpat; traitoralert; woodward
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To: elcid1970

Over 15000 French soldiers were lost in the battle Dien Bien Phu between KIA, MIA and captured ( almost 11,000 were captured by the Viet Cong) and this idiot Buchanan is bringing this battle as a comparison to Iraq!


41 posted on 10/03/2006 6:58:47 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Hoodat
Not a bit, someone should send him a link to the Dien Bien Phu battle and he will know that he is a total fool for comparing this French military defeat to our war in Iraq.
42 posted on 10/03/2006 7:00:33 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas
"Over 15000 French soldiers were lost in the battle Dien Bien Phu between KIA, MIA and captured..."

That's about the same losses as at pat's last Reform Party convention.

43 posted on 10/03/2006 7:02:32 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: SaltyJoe

Excellent analysis.


44 posted on 10/03/2006 7:04:03 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: CWOJackson

Sure, we can pull the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan will follow soon after.

We can simply do it if everyone (Dems) think we can never win in the sense that attacks and violence will never simmer down enough so that the new Iraqi and Aghani governments can control it on their own.

But if we do, we'll just have to go back some day soon and we'll have to go back with Nukes this time.

Is that really what the Dems are proposing?


45 posted on 10/03/2006 7:10:24 PM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: JustDoItAlways
According to buchanan, if we simply pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan, AND STOP SUPPORTING ISRAEL, everything will be fine once again.
46 posted on 10/03/2006 7:12:20 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Dane

You may get a chuckle out of this. Looks like pat's been spending too much time with Mr. LeRoy.


47 posted on 10/03/2006 9:14:51 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: AmeriBrit

Try this one....for a laugh.


48 posted on 10/03/2006 10:00:45 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

"Is this how the great republic fights and wins its wars?"

Yes, you idiot, check the cut-n-run Democrats from *1864*
who were for negotiating with the confederacy...


49 posted on 10/03/2006 11:01:20 PM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: CWOJackson

I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry!

Maybe it's me but I can't understand how these idiot's get air time or why people listen to them. I wouldn't buy their books if they were on the $1 clearance table at 'Pic-and-Save'.

I truly believe their twisted minds, among others, think a loss in the ME war will take some of the smell of the Vietnam loss away.


50 posted on 10/03/2006 11:09:14 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (By a miracle we lived through 'Eight Clinton Years of Living Hell'....NO MORE CLINTON'S...EVER!)
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