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Resign, Mr. Speaker
The Washington Times ^ | 10/3/2007

Posted on 10/03/2006 4:09:22 AM PDT by Taggart_D

The facts of the disgrace of Mark Foley, who was a Republican member of the House from a Florida district until he resigned last week, constitute a disgrace for every Republican member of Congress. Red flags emerged in late 2005, perhaps even earlier, in suggestive and wholly inappropriate e-mail messages to underage congressional pages. His aberrant, predatory -- and possibly criminal -- behavior was an open secret among the pages who were his prey. The evidence was strong enough long enough ago that the speaker should have relieved Mr. Foley of his committee responsibilities contingent on a full investigation to learn what had taken place, whether any laws had been violated and what action, up to and including prosecution, were warranted by the facts. This never happened....

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: foley; foleygate; hastert; page; rats; resign; tancredo4speaker; usefulidiots; washingtontimes
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To: PghBaldy
I do not believe the Speaker ought to resign. I do believe the entire page setup ought to be changed, and maybe made multiyear, you want to be a page work the Summer at the local Representative or Senator offices, and then after you graduate you might be able to go to the Washington office. I guess is come down to no more underage pages or interns, may no stop the abuse or sex, but at least most folks would be of age.
181 posted on 10/03/2006 7:28:27 AM PDT by thinkthenpost
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To: Cold Heat

You don't know that.


182 posted on 10/03/2006 7:30:00 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Cold Heat

"They could not do much more, because it would be viewed as gay bashing within the party."

You wrote that with a straight face?


183 posted on 10/03/2006 7:32:52 AM PDT by notigar
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To: amutr22

I didn't call for his head. The only resignations I called for were in my last statement: "Anyone & everyone of either party who knew of Mark Foley's predation on children prior to this becoming public should resign immediately."

This is because they knowingly allowed at least one pedophile to prey on the house pages - children. I'm guessing there are more.

As for Hastert, playing dumb doesn't cut it with me. He's too powerful for that, & pols couldn't keep a secret about their own sister.


184 posted on 10/03/2006 7:33:36 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
And in fact on Friday he said he didn't actually remember Reynolds even MENTIONING the e-mails to him at all, AFTER Reynolds had said he had briefed the speaker

Where are you getting your information on this? The only place I've seen this is in the WaPo, which is not a source I would consider golden.

185 posted on 10/03/2006 7:35:43 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: Mister Da
This is because they knowingly allowed at least one pedophile to prey on the house pages - children

This is absolutely false.

186 posted on 10/03/2006 7:36:11 AM PDT by what's up
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To: muawiyah
Yeah I do....To be a molested child, you first must be a child.

Apparently we have a small problem with the definition of exactly what a child is.

But it's is no surprise to me. Thousands of mothers have no idea their kids are out and sexually active like a bunch of bunny's. To them, they are their children, but they really don't fit the definition.

So now, I see politicians on both sides of the aisle using this device to create anger and horror.....

Sorry, but I am not biting on the bait. A 16 or seventeen year old today, is very likely to have been sexually active for more than two to three years. These pages are generally a bit older and are young adults, not children.

187 posted on 10/03/2006 7:37:52 AM PDT by Cold Heat (I just analyze it, I did not create the mess...so go pound sand:-))
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To: notigar
I've suggested already that the only solution to this sort of problem is to ban gays from Congress.

That doesn't eliminate all the problems, but more than half of all the Congress-critters hitting on the pages in the past have been gay blades, so that gets rid of at least half the problem.

188 posted on 10/03/2006 7:38:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Mister Da
I highly suspect The Speaker of the house has many important issues on the table that effect the country. We are at war.

The minority party calls for an investigation of some sort everyday. The FBI should be looking for terrorists not applying muscle for every witch hunt the democrats and media cook up.

I would hate to think The Speaker spends his entire day searching for problems he does not know exist. Had Hastert asked for Foley's resignation with the information he did have the Democrat leadership would have insisted on Hastert's resignation by branding him homophobic.

189 posted on 10/03/2006 7:39:05 AM PDT by JIM O
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To: KJC1
From the Hastert Press Release on Friday:

Congressman Tom Reynolds in a statement issued today indicates that many months later, in the spring of 2006, he was approached by Congressman Alexander who mentioned the Foley issue from the previous fall. During a meeting with the Speaker he says he noted the issue which had been raised by Alexander and told the Speaker that an investigation was conducted by the Clerk of the House and Shimkus. While the Speaker does not explicitly recall this conversation, he has no reason to dispute Congressman Reynold’s recollection that he reported to him on the problem and its resolution.

As you can see, the speaker does not "explicitly recall this conversation".

190 posted on 10/03/2006 7:39:41 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Cold Heat
You believe in polls don't you?

Did you know that children usually tell you what they think you want to hear ~ lest you think them abnormal and want to fix them.

The kiddies are less sexually active than you believe, so watch out.

191 posted on 10/03/2006 7:39:57 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Taggart_D
Hastert has to now realize that the Democrats were planning this all of the time that he was defending William Jefferson over the FBI raid of his office.

This is the Republican fatal flaw. One can hope that this Democrat backstabbing of Hastert will finally open up a few eyes.

-PJ

192 posted on 10/03/2006 7:40:15 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: what's up

I can't count how many times I've seen that lie here (GOP leaders ignored pedophiles). It's ridiculous and obvious that the media campaign of confusion is working to some extent.


193 posted on 10/03/2006 7:41:16 AM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: Dane
if he hadn't even typed a word, this editorial has his stamp of approval.

How many editorial editors does the WT have? So now you're saying Tony is responsible for demanding Hastert resign? And Hastert is responsible for Foley. Sounds like we have a Plame case in the making.

194 posted on 10/03/2006 7:41:59 AM PDT by duckln
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To: Cold Heat

I consider 16 or younger to be a child. PERIOD!

You obviously have never raised a child. If you did, you'd know what one was. Unless, of course, you are a child.

Picture your 16 year old boy getting a long, wet kiss goodnight by Mark Foley on your doorstep tonight. If you think you should do something about it, then you know how I feel about Hastert & Co. If not, I pity your kids.


195 posted on 10/03/2006 7:43:05 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: notigar
Yep.........

Gingrich said the same thing, in so many words. I heard him say it.

he said, because of the sexual orientation of the congressman, it caused some discussion as to potential blow backs from making the original counseling public, so they kept it quiet, private and within the leadership. The inference was that they did not want to upset the gay republican groups any further than they had already, in 2003-04 election cycle.

Your surprise at this, simply tells me you have no idea what you are talking about and are acting all insulted when you don't have a clue as to the politics of this and how it has been played by the Dem's.

Had the republicans had anything at all that could have hurt the party, they would have acted. They did not.

But the Dem's did, and they saved it for this rainy day.

196 posted on 10/03/2006 7:48:04 AM PDT by Cold Heat (I just analyze it, I did not create the mess...so go pound sand:-))
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To: muawiyah

That, or be on the lookout for and enforce laws against pedophiles.


197 posted on 10/03/2006 7:49:37 AM PDT by notigar
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To: muawiyah
No, you still don't get it. This is about a pedophile & his enablers, no matter which party.

And how YOU could know what anybody knew & when they knew it, based on the early pronouncements of the pols, is naive. Somebody is lying, probably everybody.
198 posted on 10/03/2006 7:50:31 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Mister Da
Picture your 16 year old boy getting a long, wet kiss goodnight by Mark Foley on your doorstep tonight. If you think you should do something about it, then you know how I feel about Hastert & Co. If not, I pity your kids.

Yes, I have raised three kids, you pious jack&#@*!

Your knee jerking response to common knowledge notwithstanding, perhaps it is you who will end up with a gay son. I did not.

199 posted on 10/03/2006 7:52:20 AM PDT by Cold Heat (I just analyze it, I did not create the mess...so go pound sand:-))
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I should have been more clear about my question. You have claimed that Hastert changed his story, at least I think that is what you meant. I am interested in seeing how you came to that conclusion (sources).


200 posted on 10/03/2006 7:53:04 AM PDT by KJC1
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