Posted on 10/02/2006 6:28:07 PM PDT by neverdem
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Pythagoras was 6th century I believe.
Not berating him, but misunderestimating him.
"Yes, Pope Benedict is old and scholastic; he lacks both the smile and tact of the late Pope John Paul II, who surely would not have turned for elucidation to the rigidity of Byzantine scholarship. But isnt that why we must come to the present Popes defense if for no reason other than because he has the courage to speak his convictions when others might not?"
Also, he numbers the Pope with second rate artists and cartoonists, etc.
Sure, he recognizes the Pope's bravery in speaking out. But I think he underestimates his diplomatic intelligence. The Pope didn't say that by accident; he did it on purpose, for very good reasons, to start a dialogue on the problems of rationality without religion and religion without rationality. It has done a great deal to clarify the issues and put it to the Muslims in a way they have found very hard to deal with.
Europe is controlled by a stiffling, aristocratic elite that imposes groupthink. Just as the Enlightenment thinkers paved the way for the American and French revolutions that deposed that aristocracy, so it may be Fox news by satellite and Rush Limbaugh via internet that opens European thought to new the new people and ideas it needs now.
What Mr Hansen is describing is the setting of a stage--along the lines of a human tragedy. IMHO, either a new Dark Age is on the horizon, or a bloodbath ala the 1930's/1940's. Either way, it isn't going to be pretty.
Well, well. No point in arguing. In any case, I have always admired Hanson and enjoyed reading him, which was why I was a bit surprised.
And he may find the Pope a useful ally in his campaign against the decadence that troubles this age, because the Pope too has been arguing for a return precisely to the thinking of the Greek fifth century, a return to rationality in its deepest sense.
Can't disagree with that!
Yes, it certainly can be extended back. And you can make the argument that the Greeks were the true inventors of literature, back in 10th century BC.
The argument has been made that although written Hebrew was earlier than written Greek, Greek was the first written language in which new literary texts could be widely read. The Hebrew Bible was not pointed in the early texts, so it was difficult or impossible to know how to pronounce or read it unless it was accompanied by an oral tradition of rabbis who could train up new generations to understand what it said.
With the Greek alphabet, on the other hand, you could write a new poem or a play, and anyone could pick it up, read it, and now how to pronounce it, without any oral guidance. That was the necessary prerequisite to the Greek Golden Age, and it happened centuries earlier.
BLOAT
Just going on what the author said, though. You would think that because he mentioned Pythagoras, he would have said 6th instead of 5th century.
Well, maybe not today, but I have made some folks in the powder business happy in the past.
I read stuff like this and its like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
BTW, a certain C****e W***e is still writing Hardyville articles out there, in case you're interested.
The split came apparent when two Revolutions--the American and then the French, occurred. The French went down the wrong path, and (with the help of others) dragged a lot of continental Europe with them.
Don't forget FR!
Those in an auto parts store in Fresno, or at a NASCAR race in southern Ohio, might appear to Europeans as primordials with their guns, fundamentalist religion, and flag-waving chauvinism. But it is they, and increasingly their kind alone, who prove the bulwarks of the West. Ultimately what keeps even the pope safe and the continent confident in its vain dialogues with Iranian lunatics is the United States military and the very un-Europeans who fight in it.
Well said.
This is the core of the message--that in a very real way, terror has already won on the conrtinent. The best illustration is not the Pope, but the German opera--shut down not by totalitarian police but by mere fear of cutthroats whom the state is unwilling to control.
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Is this a subtle nod to Freepers?
Could be, but he is from Fresno and he hangs out with a pretty conservative bunch here.
That was the best paragraph of the whole article!
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