[MadIvan]

Don't mind Ivan. Sometimes he has problems focusing on problems that are staring him in the face. For example, awhile back (before the 7/7 bombing) we got into a discussion about whether Britain had a huge problem with its Muslim population. I said yes. Ivan said no and further responded that America's problem with homegrown terrorists was probably worse than Britain's. As an example, Ivan pointed to Timothy McVeigh. Ignoring the fact that McVeigh has been executed whereas nothing of the sort can happen to terrorists who are caught in Britain, I think Ivan's sensitiveness on the relative merits of Britain versus the United States is the sensitivity that comes from realizing how close Europe is to being pushed over the edge of the multicultural precipe.

Excuse me, I don't recall saying anything of the kind. If you're going to make such outrageous accusations, cite nad prove.

What I have said is that you have just as many Muslims in the United States, and just as many terrorist cells. For you to somehow claim to be sailing through calm waters while we're sinking, given we're clutching equal numbers of vipers in our midst, stretches credibility.

I'd like to point out that no American here ever apologises for standing up for their country. You love your country, live it, breathe it, follow it to the end. What is inexplicable is how many of you behave like arseheads when you see someone else feels the same about their country.

Ivan

[vbmoneyspender]

I specifically remember you saying it Ivan and I specifically remember you alluding to McVeigh as an example of our homegrown terrorist problem being worse than Britain's. More to the point, do you continue to deny that Britain has a huge Muslim problem that has no equivalent in the United States?

[vbmoneyspender]

Londonistan

The suicide bombings carried out in London in 2005 by British Muslims revealed an enormous fifth column of Islamist terrorists and their sympathizers. Under the noses of British intelligence, London has become the European hub for the promotion, recruitment and financing of Islamic terror and extremism - so much so that it has been mockingly dubbed Londonistan. In this ground-breaking book Melanie Phillips pieces together the story of how Londonistan developed as a result of the collapse of traditional British identity and accommodation of a particularly virulent form of multiculturalism. Londonistan has become a country within the country and not only threatens Britain but its special relationship with the U.S. as well.

[vbmoneyspender]

And by the way Ivan, before you start accusing me of being a reflexive British-hater, I consider Britain to be the indispensible nation in the development of both human liberty and Western Civilization. Without Britain, the United States could not have come into existence and without Britain standing watch over Europe and ensuring a balance of power for hundreds of years, Europe would have eventually grown into a centralized Empire along the lines of China. However, given that past history, what has astonished me so much over the past few years is how many Brits are bent on ignoring their past history that is filled with people like Nelson and Wellington and Churchill and Thatcher. If you are angry, don't be angry at me. Be angry at the multiculturalists in your own country who have allowed Londonistan to come into existence.