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To: Redmen4ever
Exactly right on all counts. The one thing, well, two, that you left out is that

a) Ipsos-Reid has already had its internals analyzed and was found to be oversampling Dems by a whopping 10%. That alone would give victory to EVERY "VULNERABLE" REPUBLICAN, PLUS KEAN, PLUS STEELE and would make Kennedy and Harris quite competitive.

b) A month ago a pollster pleaded guilty to manipulating data vis-a-vis labeling "Democrats" as "Republicans" to achieve pre-set quota numbers. Surprise, surprise.

The problem is, on election day, the Republicans who do vote really are Republicans, and they vote in higher numbers than the Dems.

95 posted on 10/01/2006 1:16:37 PM PDT by LS
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To: LS
a) Ipsos-Reid has already had its internals analyzed and was found to be oversampling Dems by a whopping 10%. That alone would give victory to EVERY "VULNERABLE" REPUBLICAN, PLUS KEAN, PLUS STEELE and would make Kennedy and Harris quite competitive.

Point 1: Ipsos-Reid was a national poll. It applies in no way to analyzing the accuracy of state polls

Point 2: You keep referring to this one poll, not the at least 150 state Senate polls released in the last two months.

Point 3: "Oversampling" Democrats by 10 percent still wouldn't give Santorum a victory.

b) A month ago a pollster pleaded guilty to manipulating data vis-a-vis labeling "Democrats" as "Republicans" to achieve pre-set quota numbers.

Point 4: Said "pollster" is DataUSA or Viewpoint USA. I've never seen a single poll ever released by that corporation. Never seen any here, on pollingreport, on RCP, on Cook, or on any blogs. Nowhere. Besides that, Viewpoint USA was not a media or mainstream pollster -- they specialized in INTERNAL polling, which I don't happen to put a lot of stock in anyway. The ironic thing is that me, the "poll guy," doesn't believe internal polls. On the other hand, you, the tinfoil hat media-conspiracy guy, believe only what campaign workers (and Zogby Interactive -- as long as he shows Blackwell losing by less than 10) tell you while completely denying all independent and nonpartisan evidence to the contrary.

107 posted on 10/01/2006 1:26:51 PM PDT by okstate
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