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Weekend Show *Preview* for 9/30 - 10/1/06 (not the live thread)
Network and Cable News Networks | 9/30/06 | Network and Cable News

Posted on 09/30/2006 12:34:14 PM PDT by Phsstpok

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Saturday Shows for 9/30/06

Below are the topics and guests announced for these programs, along with my take on the "memes" that the shows are trying to push.  With each guest's name are a series of links that I found in a web search that helped me get a handle on who they are and what their likely positions will be when they are interviewed.

The Beltway Boys (Mort Kondrake, Fred Barnes)

CNBC's Tim Russert Show (Tim Russert)

Fox News Watch (Eric Burns)

Journal Editorial Report (Paul Gigot) - FNC show page


1 posted on 09/30/2006 12:34:18 PM PDT by Phsstpok
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NBC Meet The Press (Tim Russert)

Below are the topics and guests announced for this program, along with my take on the "memes" that the show is trying to push.  With each guest's name are a series of links that I found in a web search that helped me get a handle on who they are and what their likely positions will be when they are interviewed.


2 posted on 09/30/2006 12:35:15 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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CBS Face The Nation (Bob Schieffer)

Below are the topics and guests announced for this program, along with my take on the "memes" that the show is trying to push.  With each guest's name are a series of links that I found in a web search that helped me get a handle on who they are and what their likely positions will be when they are interviewed.


3 posted on 09/30/2006 12:36:09 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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Fox News Sunday (Chris Wallace)

Below are the topics and guests announced for this program, along with my take on the "memes" that the show is trying to push.  With each guest's name are a series of links that I found in a web search that helped me get a handle on who they are and what their likely positions will be when they are interviewed.


4 posted on 09/30/2006 12:36:47 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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ABC This Week (George Stephanopoulos)

Below are the topics and guests announced for this program, along with my take on the "memes" that the show is trying to push.  With each guest's name are a series of links that I found in a web search that helped me get a handle on who they are and what their likely positions will be when they are interviewed.


5 posted on 09/30/2006 12:37:27 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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CNN Late Edition (Wolf Blitzer)

Below are the topics and guests announced for this program, along with my take on the "memes" that the show is trying to push.  With each guest's name are a series of links that I found in a web search that helped me get a handle on who they are and what their likely positions will be when they are interviewed.


6 posted on 09/30/2006 12:37:59 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: A.Hun; Bahbah; Txsleuth; MNJohnnie; eeevil conservative; Alas Babylon!; Seattle Conservative; ...
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The Weekend Talk Show Preview Thread is up

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See the initial post for my "usual witty commentary"

It's week four (or 297, depending on how you figure it) of the WOB (war on Bush) and all things "Republi-fascist," as the drive by media might style what they're doing.  We've had a week of spin like we haven't seen since... well, since Clinton was in office.  All the old hateful and hate filled faces were back on the screaming head shows pulling their electrically powered rapid fire mouths back out of storage and plugging them in for one more go around of lies, screaming lies and videotape.... In summary, this week the DBM returns full throttle to wallowing in Bush Derangement Syndrome, framing all of the discussion (that they can control) on "what's wrong with Bush and his policies." 

7 posted on 09/30/2006 12:40:09 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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A couple of things I want to mention, for those who read this excellent thread:

1. Brett Baier's hour-long special on Rumsfeld airs tonight (8PM Eastern), and looks to be quite good and a good rebuttal to Woodward.

2. The democrats are trying to innoculate Woodward from criticism. I actually heard a pundit on Fox say that Woodward is an icon, and cannot therefore be criticized. This has shown up in a couple of shows today.

8 posted on 09/30/2006 12:57:45 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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Must See Saturday TV: Bret Bauer's "Why He [Rumsfeld] Fights" will be on FOX tonight at 8pm.


9 posted on 09/30/2006 12:59:49 PM PDT by Carolinamom ("I don't have time to be fingerpointing." ---President George W. Bush)
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Bauer = Baier


10 posted on 09/30/2006 1:08:23 PM PDT by Carolinamom ("I don't have time to be fingerpointing." ---President George W. Bush)
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It occurs to me seeing all the hype over Woodward's attempt to be the next Kitty Kelly, that the US political scene is as much DC Establishment vrs the American People as it is Republican vrs Democrat.

Just because we won in 2000, many of US Conservative have forgotten that the DC Establishment is still our blood enemy. Politics is not just Democrat vrs Republican, it is also largely a battle of the DC Establishment vrs the American people.

That best indication of that divide is John McCain and the RINO Senators. EVEN when the President is totally right, they always find a way to straddle the issue. To try and be on both sides of the issue to avoid being seen as supporting the President. That is why you hear all the rage on the Left that "the Republican Senate sold us out" to Bush over the Detainee bill . To many people in the DC Establishment it is not so much Republicans vrs Democrats but Old Boy Washington vrs the Hick Newcomers. Woodwards supposed interviews, some of which are all ready being disputed, make it pretty clear a number of old Republican politicians and operatives are running scared of the DC Political-Media Complex.

They just cannot seem to grasp that Talk Radio, the 'Net and Cable TV News is destroying their cozy little Information monopoly. They cannot seem to grasp that they can no longer be one type of politician in DC and a different one back home in Red State America. Now days people KNOW what Pols did almost as fast the Pols do it. There are no more media gatekeeper to make sure what happens in DC stays in DC
11 posted on 09/30/2006 1:09:57 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: Miss Marple

From Howie Kurtz's column:

The very title of "State of Denial" suggests a more sharp-edged approach than "Bush at War" or "Plan of Attack," although the latter, in particular, contained revelations about the administration that were seized upon by John Kerry's presidential campaign after its 2004 release. But the narrative pushed by Woodward's critics was that of a journalist who was an outsider while digging into the Nixon White House but had since become wealthy, famous and too cozy with those in the Bush White House.

The dominant theme of the new book -- that the administration was torn by internal divisions over Iraq and failed to recognize its blunders -- could prompt a reassessment of Woodward's work.

"In my view, his reputation had suffered from the first two books on the Bush administration, and I believe he's a very smart guy and he knows that," said Jay Rosen, a New York University journalism professor. "I think he was used to put out a narrative that was radically incomplete."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/29/AR2006092901655.html


12 posted on 09/30/2006 1:10:33 PM PDT by Howlin (Declassify the Joe Wilson "Report!")
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http://icasualties.org/oif/

http://icasualties.org/oif/IraqiDeaths.aspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Security_Forces



Here is the raw data on Iraq. Seems BW simply cherry picked his data to falsely validate preconceived notions. IF attacks are "as high as they have ever been" they are getting less and less effective. Why were the Iraqis taking higher monthly casualties in 2004 and 2005?

Simply put BW is full of it. He had his mind made up and went to find people who would say what he wanted to hear. This is his act of atonement to the DC Establishment for writing a fairly balanced book on Bush last time.


13 posted on 09/30/2006 1:11:35 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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If you chart the data in the post above, you see a base line of violence. While the violence ebbs and flows the base line is steady. That base line totally undercuts the notion that Iraq is "heading for Civil War" or is "Spinning out of Control" which is the claims of Bob Woodward and other assorted Leftists.

To counter the claim that "We are not making fast enough progress" look at the data on Iraqi security forces. More and more of the job is being taken up by Iraqi forces. 2 of 18 Providence have been turned over to complete Iraqi control. All the progress in the war is on our side. The enemy is making no progress. Time is on our side, not theirs.

Another factor Mr Woodward fails to grasp. Because we have gotten on top of the external Terrorist threat, we are able to focus on other lesser threats. Witness what the British down south, and the US in the Baghdad region, are doing. They are working with the Iraqis to weed out the gangs and militia that sprung up in the wake of Saddam's fall.

Counter Insurgency is slow, painful work. But the progress is all on our side. The "Insurgents" has demonstrated no ability to politically or militarily evolve. They are still stuck in stage one of Guerrilla Warfare. They can wreck stuff and kill people they cannot grow. They cannot take and hold ground no engage in anything beyond small scale hit and run actions.

Their failure to develop a shadow political structure to act as a polar opposite to the Iraqi Government is their fatal flaw. They simply cannot move beyond state one

The claims and assumptions stated as "fact" by Mr Woodward on Iraq are fraudulent. Considering he got that completely wrong, one has to wonder just what else he make up in this book?


14 posted on 09/30/2006 1:25:24 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: Phsstpok

Heard Chris Wallace on WABC radio the other morning. FNC fully intends to discuss the substance of X42's statements. IOW, reveal the truth about his LIES.


15 posted on 09/30/2006 1:28:19 PM PDT by OldFriend (Should we wait for them to come and kill us again? President Karzai 9/26/06)
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Representing the congressional Republicans we have RINO extraordinaire Chuck Hagel (a better choice for Fredo, to my mind). His betrayal of the President (and common sense), along with his cohort in crime Olympia Snowe, in joining with the Dhimmicrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee to issue a totally bogus and deceitful Iraq intelligence "phase 2" report a few weeks ago has made him the darling of the inside the beltway crowd.

Does this mean we get to take Hegel out fishing in the rowboat?

16 posted on 09/30/2006 1:31:44 PM PDT by Darth Republican
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My friend, you've made my week with your three posts so far on this thread. Absolutely spectacular! May I recommend that you try to put together the numbers on the trends from the data post and get them posted on the Sunday thread? That is killer stuff!

On your first post, the "inside the beltway vs the rest of us" idea is kind of what I was trying to get to with the discussion about Lugar being more in line with Byrd than his constituents and more concerned about "the institution" of the Senate than with the fate of the Country.

They get seduced. That's why term limits are really a necessary constraint on their activities. Term limits make a lot more sense than so-called campaign finance reform!
17 posted on 09/30/2006 1:35:05 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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Thirty-four Congressional House Democrats sold their souls and their conscience to the radical-right and rabid Republicans. Among those Thirty-four Congressional Democrats was Ohio's own Sherrod Brown!

Oops, Brown has ticked off the moonbats who, by the way, believe that the new law will allow the evil Bush to imprison war protesters.

18 posted on 09/30/2006 1:49:48 PM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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Thanks Phsstpok for this thread.

Week 4 of the DBM blitzkrieg against McChimpy Bushitler - this is our last chance, so screw reason and fairness... let's pile on the BS!

I have come to the opinion that Democrats believe if they tell multiple lies, our side will be so busy trying to fight each one that they can smugly sit back and get support. 

If they tell one, we can counter it and it's done. If they tell ten, while we are busy countering them all there will be some people who think our side is being unreasonable and vindictive.  My point is if a whole host of lies are floating around, many undecided or independent voters will think that some, a few or half, are true. 

This was always part of the "everyone lies about sex" defense.  Yes, many people would lie about sex, but few would lie to a Grand Jury or in court. Once caught with facts, the majority of people would confess.  But not Bill Clinton or the Democrats.   They believe if they continue to press the lie there will always be people who accept it as truth.

 

19 posted on 09/30/2006 3:07:41 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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As always, an amazing pre-cap for tomorrow's shows. Good research and nice summary. Thanks as always. FNC should be interesting, and I might tune into the MTP debate...but in standard fashion, DeWine will have to debate both Russert and Sherwood. The rest of the shows....well, headache material!


20 posted on 09/30/2006 3:11:43 PM PDT by Laverne
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