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To: conservative in nyc
What does an archaic 1853 treaty regarding the Veracruz railroad have to do with building a border fence?

Not much, if we are willing to trash our Constitutional Republic. Otherwise, the President must seek concurrence from two thirds of the Senate to nullify the treaty. In my opinion this was a late night "deal" to mollify the public. No more, no less. Good PR for the Republican party, no doubt. My stance is simple. Such a maneuver for political gain is inappropriate. Else the "opposition" (joke) would have stalled it. IMHO it is a bipartisan ploy to garner votes. On both sides of the aisle.

If we are indeed suffering an invasion, and the "War on Drugs" (and illicit smuggled weapons and sex slaves) is a failure; please explain to me why we allow our finest men and women to give the ultimate sacrifice for zero benefit. Simply put, when a muddy creek and some barbed wire can not be controlled; too many "conservatives" demand to throw money at the problem.

242 posted on 09/29/2006 9:54:29 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever; conservative in nyc; jveritas
Not much, if we are willing to trash our Constitutional Republic. Otherwise, the President must seek concurrence from two thirds of the Senate to nullify the treaty.

With an 80-19 margin for passage, if the Mexican government is unwilling to come to an agreement on this issue, it is quite possible the Senate could vote to nullify the treaty in whole or in part.

254 posted on 09/29/2006 10:16:15 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

I still don't see anything in the treaty prohibiting us from building a border fence. Please explain.


260 posted on 09/29/2006 10:26:49 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
Otherwise, the President must seek concurrence from two thirds of the Senate to nullify the treaty.

I don't know where you got this idea, but it's not the least bit true. Treaties are not superior to statutes; nor are statutes superior to treaties. The two are Constitutionally equal. If or when they conflict, whichever occurs later becomes the (new) law of the land.

339 posted on 09/30/2006 9:12:31 AM PDT by Sandy
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