Posted on 09/29/2006 7:40:28 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance
Edited on 09/29/2006 7:52:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Just how do you suggest the American government build a wall on Mexican territory? You need to go home and grow up for about ten years, come back and try again.
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Sorry, Dane. Can't win 'em all, eh?
I hope that the Senate doesn't think that, in passing this, that they have actually solved the problem. I also hope that they don't think that the voters will have thought they have solved the problem.
While a large percentage, probably a majority, of those illegally in the US crossed the southern border, there are still other ways to get in. Also, many of those who are here illegally (from just about every country on earth) were admitted legally on tourist or other temporary visas. Until we have legislation (and enforcement) to end the 'anchor baby' policy, prosecute employers, and create penalties for being in the country illegally, the illegal alien problem will not end.
The border fence is worse than usless, it's expensive and usless. Between that and having a congressman from our side come out as a gay sex offender, I'd say it's been a bad week.
Yep. You and I agree on many things. Much more than we disagree upon. My stance on immigration, and illegal immigration in specific; is that it is the sole responsibility of the federal government. Since the negotiation of treaties and trade is the purvey of the federal government, and specifically excluded by the interstate commerce regulations; I posit that the taking of any lands (public or private) for the regulation of commerce between a foreign nation and any of the United States is not only unconstitutional: I predict that the Supreme Court will weigh in on this. Legislation done for popular appeal does not necessarily mean good legislation.
The President will veto the bill.
The majority of the land along the southern border (outside of Texas) is already federal land so no one's private property will be in question in those areas.
In Texas and other areas, I am willing to be that those folks (and I am speaking as a native Texan) will welcome this initiaitive and be willing to be compensated for a narrow stretch of their land right along the border to keep the illegal aliens, drug trafficers, and potential terrorists out.
Since they will be compensated, their land is not being stolen in the least...but the defense of this nation is being provided for according to constitutional means.
The House has long known this...it is clear we finally scared the Senate at election time into supporting it too.
It takes a while for the 'rats to count their real mail and separate it from the mass produced bulk-rate drivel that usually guides their actions.
Where was Kennedy? Staggering out at a watering hole on East Capitol Street trying to hail a cab back to the floor?
And thus spoken a real bitter loser who claims that he is a "real conservative".
Republicans may often be pathetic but they sure look great right now compared to those 19 that voted against this bill - one of which would be the majority leader of the Senate if the dems were to win control in Nov.
Alphabetical by Senator Name Akaka (D-HI), Nay
Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Allard (R-CO), Yea
Allen (R-VA), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Brownback (R-KS), Yea
Bunning (R-KY), Yea
Burns (R-MT), Yea
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Yea
Cantwell (D-WA), Nay
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Chafee (R-RI), Nay
Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Clinton (D-NY), Yea
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Coleman (R-MN), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Craig (R-ID), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
Dayton (D-MN), Yea
DeMint (R-SC), Yea
DeWine (R-OH), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Dole (R-NC), Yea
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Nay
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Nay
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Frist (R-TN), Yea
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagel (R-NE), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Nay
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Jeffords (I-VT), Nay
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kennedy (D-MA), Not Voting
Kerry (D-MA), Nay
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay
Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Levin (D-MI), Nay
Lieberman (D-CT), Nay
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Lott (R-MS), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Martinez (R-FL), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Nay
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Obama (D-IL), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Reed (D-RI), Nay
Reid (D-NV), Nay
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Salazar (D-CO), Nay
Santorum (R-PA), Yea
Sarbanes (D-MD), Nay
Schumer (D-NY), Yea
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Smith (R-OR), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Sununu (R-NH), Yea
Talent (R-MO), Yea
Thomas (R-WY), Yea
Thune (R-SD), Yea
Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Wyden (D-OR), Yea
Congress can stop the fence down the line in many different ways; cutting funding and without a line item veto it would work, tie it up in countless committee hearings, etc. Give Democrats control of the House or Senate in November and the fence will be dead.
You posit wrong.
I predict that the Supreme Court will weigh in on this.
They already have.
L
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