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Dick Armey Slams Dr. James Dobson
Newsmax ^ | 9/29/06 | Newsmax Staff

Posted on 09/27/2006 11:30:48 AM PDT by truthandlife

Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey has launched an attack on Focus on the Family founder James Dobson, saying Dobson and his "band of thugs” are "nasty bullies” and accusing the Republicans of pandering to the Christian right.

In an interview with Ryan Sager, author of the book "The Elephant in the Room: Evangelicals, Libertarians, and the Battle to Control the Republican Party,” Armey said the GOP was "adrift and rudderless” in its commitment to small government.

When pressed by Sager about what he feels is wrong with today’s Republican Congress, Armey – who became majority leader when the GOP took control of Congress in 1994 and retired in 2003 – said: "The criteria of choice in just about every behavior you see in Congress today is politics. Where in the hell did this Terri Schiavo thing come from? There’s not a conservative, Constitution-loving, separation-of-powers guy alive in the world that could have wanted that bill on the floor.

"That was pure, blatant pandering to James Dobson. That’s all it was. It was silly, stupid, and irresponsible. Nobody serious about the Constitution would do that. But the question was will this energize our Christian conservative base for the next election.”

Sager asked why it seems that Christian conservatives are more powerful now than in the 1990s. Armey replied: "To a large extent because Dobson and his gang of thugs are real nasty bullies. I pray devoutly every day, but being a Christian is no excuse for being stupid. There’s a high demagoguery coefficient to issues like prayer in schools. Demagoguery doesn’t work unless it’s dumb . . . These issues are easy for the intellectually lazy and can appeal to a large demographic.”

Armey, who was first elected as a Congressman from Texas in 1984, toned down his remarks – but only slightly – in an op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal on Sept. 23. He again brought up Dobson: "The national representatives of the social conservative movement used to be sophisticated and tolerant. Today, they are sophomoric and angry. It's an embarrassing spectacle seeing leaders bullied around by the likes of James Dobson, or watching the Christian Coalition team up with MoveOn.org in support of bigger government.”

Armey – now chairman of FreedomWorks, a national grassroots advocacy organization – did not reserve his criticism for the GOP, going on to write: "Perhaps the only thing more embarrassing than being a loyal Republican in this election season is being a loyal Democrat. Although the party has offered no proposal to fix Social Security, the aspiring House speaker, Nancy Pelosi, and the Senate majority leader hopeful, Harry Reid, held yet another press conference recently denouncing the secret Republican plan to "privatize" the failing entitlement.

"While Democrat pollsters are no doubt telling their candidates that the P-word will effectively scare seniors and other swing constituencies to the polls, this strategy has consistently failed in past election cycles.”


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To: truthandlife

Dick why don't you just cut your wrists, you are not presidential material.


21 posted on 09/27/2006 11:44:46 AM PDT by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: truthandlife

Wow. Mild-mannered James Dobson, a bullying thug? Who would have guessed?

And he wasn't even on my list of people to fear meeting in a dark alley!


22 posted on 09/27/2006 11:45:44 AM PDT by Elpasser
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To: truthandlife

shut up, Armey. You're no conservative.


23 posted on 09/27/2006 11:45:44 AM PDT by balch3
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To: GretchenM
Dobson works through an ability to persuade, not through thuggery.

No kidding. It's hard to imagine a more humble, reasonable and self-controlled man than James Dobson.

Dick has spent too much time at the ACLU. It's infected his brain and his heart. He's become dishonest.

He's even adopted their tactics: If you can't defeat their arguments, demonize them...

24 posted on 09/27/2006 11:45:54 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (What man still doesn't know about God's creation is still enough to fill a universe...)
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To: truthandlife

Thanks Dick. Run the conservative Christians off, and the Republican Party will go into eclipse for a generation. Moron.


25 posted on 09/27/2006 11:47:03 AM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: roses of sharon

(Un)fortunately, the ReligiousRightMoral'Majority'ArmyofGod(tm) wing of the party is going to find itself out in the cold if enough mainstream Republicans get tired of their tactics. Then maybe we can work towards getting those undecideds and middle-of-the-road voters back into the fold who were run off or scared off by Dobson and his ilk.


26 posted on 09/27/2006 11:47:06 AM PDT by BritExPatInFla
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To: truthandlife

"Where in the hell did this Terri Schiavo thing come from? There’s not a conservative, Constitution-loving, separation-of-powers guy alive in the world that could have wanted that bill on the floor."

It has to do with an oral statement (no written/signed document) from a husband who did NOT have his wife's best interests at heart having more legal say than her own parents.

Eventually we may see a protection of life constitutional amendment (that would address abortion, euthenasia, and discrimination from genetic screening).


27 posted on 09/27/2006 11:47:46 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: eraser2005
Someone in the Republican party needed to admit it....

If folks like Dick Armey, and others like him, think Jim Dobson is a thug, it's no wonder they always bend their knees in fear to the real thugs in the Democrat Party.

28 posted on 09/27/2006 11:48:45 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (What man still doesn't know about God's creation is still enough to fill a universe...)
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To: EternalVigilance

Penis Navy is so yesterday...


29 posted on 09/27/2006 11:48:47 AM PDT by Risha
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To: truthandlife

Dick tries to come off like he is the one with principals and evangelicals are "political", but I'd say just the opposite: Dick is pandering to the lamestream, saying "look, nudge nudge, now that I'm out of office, please don't think that I really liked all those dopey evangelicals! Invite me back to your Country Club, please!!!"


30 posted on 09/27/2006 11:50:06 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: BritExPatInFla
LOL, scared off by "tactics"?

So they vote for the libs now?

Obviously confused voters.
31 posted on 09/27/2006 11:50:23 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: exit82
I'm willing to bet a lot of them "on our side" feel this way.
32 posted on 09/27/2006 11:50:56 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded Crunchy Con American Male (NRA))
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To: balch3

If being conservative means wanting even more government in our lives to enforce morality then I guess he isn't.


33 posted on 09/27/2006 11:51:33 AM PDT by misterrob
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To: truthandlife

Armey seems seriously jealous of Dobson.

What a midget.


34 posted on 09/27/2006 11:52:20 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: My2Cents

Alienate the ones who like limited government and personal responsibility and the party will be just as dead.


35 posted on 09/27/2006 11:52:39 AM PDT by misterrob
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To: balch3
You're no conservative.

ACU Lifetime Score = 97.

36 posted on 09/27/2006 11:52:40 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: BritExPatInFla
Good idea.

Alienate the core, broken-glass consituency of the GOP and then try to get the most passive, least-dependable segment of the electorate fired up about Lincoln Chafee in 2008.

Look out, Karl Rove! BEPIF's got your number!

37 posted on 09/27/2006 11:52:50 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: truthandlife
Yeah, Dr. Dobson is such a bully. /sarcasm
38 posted on 09/27/2006 11:53:40 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: BritExPatInFla
(Un)fortunately, the ReligiousRightMoral'Majority'ArmyofGod(tm) wing of the party is going to find itself out in the cold if enough mainstream Republicans get tired of their tactics. Then maybe we can work towards getting those undecideds and middle-of-the-road voters back into the fold who were run off or scared off by Dobson and his ilk.

Gosh, where does one start on such a pack of lies.

If the Christian conservatives are driven out of the GOP, the GOP will never win another national election again.

"Out in the cold" my patootie. If the Christians started another Party, it would be the majority party again within ten years. Conversely, without Christians, the GOP would quickly go the way of the Whigs.

"Mainstream"? The Christian conservatives are the heart and soul, and the arms and legs of the Republican Party. If you don't like it, go be a Democrat. If the only thing that matters to you in politics is power, what difference will your departure make to anybody?

39 posted on 09/27/2006 11:54:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (What man still doesn't know about God's creation is still enough to fill a universe...)
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To: BritExPatInFla

Oh great, then, if we are lucky we can go back to electing "Republicans" like Gerald Ford! (sarcasm)

If we are going to simply abandon our principals in order to gain back the "middle of the road voters" (as you call them), then the Democrats will most certainly win because they do a better job of buying-off their constituencies. Without principals, Republicans lose. Period.


40 posted on 09/27/2006 11:54:44 AM PDT by dinoparty
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