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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Wednesday 09-27-2006
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Posted on 09/27/2006 8:45:45 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

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Declassified Key Judgements from the April 2006 NIE Director of National Intellegence ^ | 09-26-06 | DNI

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Declassified Key Judgments of the National Intelligence Estimate .Trends in Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States. dated April 2006

Key Judgments

United States-led counterterrorism efforts have seriously damaged the leadership of al-Qa’ida and disrupted its operations; however, we judge that al-Qa’ida will continue to pose the greatest threat to the Homeland and US interests abroad by a single terrorist organization. We also assess that the global jihadist movement—which includes al- Qa’ida, affiliated and independent terrorist groups, and emerging networks and cells—is spreading and adapting to counterterrorism efforts.

• Although we cannot measure the extent of the spread with precision, a large body of all-source reporting indicates that activists identifying themselves as jihadists, although a small percentage of Muslims, are increasing in both number and geographic dispersion.

• If this trend continues, threats to US interests at home and abroad will become more diverse, leading to increasing attacks worldwide.

• Greater pluralism and more responsive political systems in Muslim majority nations would alleviate some of the grievances jihadists exploit. Over time, such progress, together with sustained, multifaceted programs targeting the vulnerabilities of the jihadist movement and continued pressure on al-Qa’ida, could erode support for the jihadists. We assess that the global jihadist movement is decentralized, lacks a coherent global strategy, and is becoming more diffuse. New jihadist networks and cells, with anti- American agendas, are increasingly likely to emerge. The confluence of shared purpose and dispersed actors will make it harder to find and undermine jihadist groups.

• We assess that the operational threat from self-radicalized cells will grow in importance to US counterterrorism efforts, particularly abroad but also in the Homeland.

• The jihadists regard Europe as an important venue for attacking Western interests. Extremist networks inside the extensive Muslim diasporas in Europe facilitate recruitment and staging for urban attacks, as illustrated by the 2004 Madrid and 2005 London bombings.

We assess that the Iraq jihad is shaping a new generation of terrorist leaders and operatives; perceived jihadist success there would inspire more fighters to continue the struggle elsewhere.

• The Iraq conflict has become the .cause celebre. for jihadists, breeding a deep resentment of US involvement in the Muslim world and cultivating supporters for the global jihadist movement. Should jihadists leaving Iraq perceive themselves, and be perceived, to have failed, we judge fewer fighters will be inspired to carry on the fight. We assess that the underlying factors fueling the spread of the movement outweigh its vulnerabilities and are likely to do so for the duration of the timeframe of this Estimate.

• Four underlying factors are fueling the spread of the jihadist movement: (1) Entrenched grievances, such as corruption, injustice, and fear of Western domination, leading to anger, humiliation, and a sense of powerlessness; (2) the Iraq .jihad;. (3) the slow pace of real and sustained economic, social, and political reforms in many Muslim majority nations; and (4) pervasive anti-US sentiment among most Muslims.all of which jihadists exploit. Concomitant vulnerabilities in the jihadist movement have emerged that, if fully exposed and exploited, could begin to slow the spread of the movement. They include dependence on the continuation of Muslim-related conflicts, the limited appeal of the jihadists. radical ideology, the emergence of respected voices of moderation, and criticism of the violent tactics employed against mostly Muslim citizens. •

The jihadists. greatest vulnerability is that their ultimate political solution.an ultra-conservative interpretation of shari.a-based governance spanning the Muslim world.is unpopular with the vast majority of Muslims. Exposing the religious and political straitjacket that is implied by the jihadists. propaganda would help to divide them from the audiences they seek to persuade.

• Recent condemnations of violence and extremist religious interpretations by a few notable Muslim clerics signal a trend that could facilitate the growth of a constructive alternative to jihadist ideology: peaceful political activism. This also could lead to the consistent and dynamic participation of broader Muslim communities in rejecting violence, reducing the ability of radicals to capitalize on passive community support. In this way, the Muslim mainstream emerges as the most powerful weapon in the war on terror.

• Countering the spread of the jihadist movement will require coordinated multilateral efforts that go well beyond operations to capture or kill terrorist leaders. If democratic reform efforts in Muslim majority nations progress over the next five years, political participation probably would drive a wedge between intransigent extremists and groups willing to use the political process to achieve their local objectives. Nonetheless, attendant reforms and potentially destabilizing transitions will create new opportunities for jihadists to exploit.

Al-Qa’ida, now merged with Abu Mus’ab al-Zarqawi’s network, is exploiting the situation in Iraq to attract new recruits and donors and to maintain its leadership role.

• The loss of key leaders, particularly Usama Bin Ladin, Ayman al-Zawahiri, and al-Zarqawi, in rapid succession, probably would cause the group to fracture into smaller groups. Although like-minded individuals would endeavor to carry on the mission, the loss of these key leaders would exacerbate strains and disagreements. We assess that the resulting splinter groups would, at least for a time, pose a less serious threat to US interests than does al-Qa.ida.

• Should al-Zarqawi continue to evade capture and scale back attacks against Muslims, we assess he could broaden his popular appeal and present a global threat.

• The increased role of Iraqis in managing the operations of al-Qa.ida in Iraq might lead veteran foreign jihadists to focus their efforts on external operations. Other affiliated Sunni extremist organizations, such as Jemaah Islamiya, Ansar al- Sunnah, and several North African groups, unless countered, are likely to expand their reach and become more capable of multiple and/or mass-casualty attacks outside their traditional areas of operation.

• We assess that such groups pose less of a danger to the Homeland than does al- Qa.ida but will pose varying degrees of threat to our allies and to US interests abroad. The focus of their attacks is likely to ebb and flow between local regime targets and regional or global ones. We judge that most jihadist groups.both well-known and newly formed.will use improvised explosive devices and suicide attacks focused primarily on soft targets to implement their asymmetric warfare strategy, and that they will attempt to conduct sustained terrorist attacks in urban environments. Fighters with experience in Iraq are a potential source of leadership for jihadists pursuing these tactics.

• CBRN capabilities will continue to be sought by jihadist groups. While Iran, and to a lesser extent Syria, remain the most active state sponsors of terrorism, many other states will be unable to prevent territory or resources from being exploited by terrorists.

Anti-US and anti-globalization sentiment is on the rise and fueling other radical ideologies. This could prompt some leftist, nationalist, or separatist groups to adopt terrorist methods to attack US interests. The radicalization process is occurring more quickly, more widely, and more anonymously in the Internet age, raising the likelihood of surprise attacks by unknown groups whose members and supporters may be difficult to pinpoint.

• We judge that groups of all stripes will increasingly use the Internet to communicate, propagandize, recruit, train, and obtain logistical and financial support.


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To: StoneWall Brigade

Can you answer me one question which is why I originally entered this debate:

Do you think that Black Americans can exist in absolute equality with White Americans, not just in political equality?


781 posted on 09/27/2006 2:01:54 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (If you speak against your own, you have chosen the wrong side.)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

No one here has ever insulted Newt. How you could ever ask such a question is ridiculous.


782 posted on 09/27/2006 2:02:07 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Karl Rove you magnificent bastard!)
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To: Kerretarded

Yes they can


783 posted on 09/27/2006 2:03:01 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: A.Hun

Which is what I said. The war started when the slave owning Democrat Confederates fired FIRST on Union forces at Fort Sumter. Equating the Union putting munitons in a Federal Fort as being as big an act of war as the Confederates firing without warning on the Fort, is just illogical. If the Confederates were to have responded in kind, they would have filed an official protest, NOt fired on them without warning. Had Union forces fired FIRST, I'd be ragging on them. But the fact is that the slave owning Confederate Democrats fired the VERY FIRST SHOTS in the Civil War, and there is no way around that, no matter what justification anyone thinks they had in doing it. In a Constitutional Representative Republic like we have, there is NO justification for anyone firing on their fellow citizens, no matter what civil unrest or divergance on issues exists in the country, either political or social. The Southern slave owning Confederate Democrats resorted to violence and treason, attacking fellow Americans, and the Union responded in kind, but they couldn't have responded if the South hadn't initiated the violence in the first place.


784 posted on 09/27/2006 2:03:21 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Was talking about the BRITISH....


READING COMPREHENSION???


785 posted on 09/27/2006 2:03:51 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I guess I'm guilty....I said Noot kisses Hellary's backside.


786 posted on 09/27/2006 2:04:42 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: RasterMaster
I guess I'm guilty....I said Noot kisses Hellary's backside.

He can kiss her backside all he wants. I'm insulted in that behavior. And for that, he's not critically important on my list these days.

787 posted on 09/27/2006 2:07:49 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Karl Rove you magnificent bastard!)
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To: A.Hun

When it's been established that the States do not have the right to secede, that makes your queston a moot point. The slave owning southern Democrat Confederate states were violating the Constitution, and guilty of treason and sedition in their actions breaking away from the Union. If there was some kind of Constitutional justification for the Confederate slave States to break away and secede from the Union, then your question of if the Union attacking the Confederate States for seceding is justified would make sense, but since the Confederate States violated the Constitution by seceding, the onus was on them to justify their actions, not the other way around. The Union responded to the militant treasonous actions of the slave owning Democrat Confederate South to preserve the United States and defend the Constitution. Why do you want to defend a bunch of racist Democrat slave owning radicals that did their best to permanently destroy the United States of America? I don't get it. Hun. :(


788 posted on 09/27/2006 2:08:32 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

so it is ok then huh?


789 posted on 09/27/2006 2:09:26 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Is it any different then Rudy kissing up to the Gays?
790 posted on 09/27/2006 2:10:52 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: A.Hun

Where did anyone trash southern herritage? The south was dead wrong in the 1860s. That's sure not my herritage and my family is almost exclusively made up of Texans for the past SIX generations. Slave owning Democrat racists are NO part of my herritage that I will EVER claim or defend. They were dead wrong then. They're dead wrong now. And that's the bottom line.


791 posted on 09/27/2006 2:11:08 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

That's when I washed my hands of him! I don't want a "get along with DUmmies" RINO....regardless of his past. Joe Scarborough is a fine example of someone going from hero to moonbat in a short period of time just to appease the LIEberal "audience".


792 posted on 09/27/2006 2:12:44 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Why? There is nothing on that site that will change anything that I know for fact from the past 16 years of studying history, which is mostly the study of American history. I know what I know, what I know is accurate, and truth is truth. Who did that site and what is their agenda? If it's just some Pro-Confederate site that slams Lincoln and the Union as being at fault for the Civil War, then it's not worth my time as it has an agenda of revisionist history and I'm not going to entertain a rewriting of 145 year old facts. I'm sorry. But I just don't do that. Fact is fact, and 9th inning attampts to redux that just doesn't work for me.


793 posted on 09/27/2006 2:14:00 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Yes...at the time Rudy was running for Mayor of NY, not CIC! Anyone who wants to cozy with a Clinton and then campaign as a "conservative" deserves a few questions raised about their character.


794 posted on 09/27/2006 2:14:54 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: RasterMaster

Awesome family history! Wow. :) Did any heirlooms make it through the family from the Revolutionary lines? That's hard to do after so long, but the few families that did manage that it's really something. :)


795 posted on 09/27/2006 2:15:09 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Yankee GOP lapdog? You're attacking long time proven CONSERVATIVE Republincans who are Americans FIRST and Republicans SECOND. You're really not doing anyone any good attacking good conservative Americans just because you disagree on a very old historical point. :( That's really not right.


796 posted on 09/27/2006 2:16:45 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: StoneWall Brigade
so it is ok then huh?

NO

God, can't you read?
797 posted on 09/27/2006 2:18:38 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Karl Rove you magnificent bastard!)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

So because we disagree with you, we buy into leftist opinions on the Civil War, even though liberal leftists HATE the Lincoln legacy and what the Union did back then as they were Republicans, and the liberals today want nothing with real equality and true historical representation. The GOP today reflects the founding principals of this country and the Constitution and the Union and Lincolns olicies of the 1860s so much more than the Democrats today or ever, it's not even funny. What you're saying just makes no sense. :(


798 posted on 09/27/2006 2:20:25 PM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: TexasPatriot8
You can not Say that Secession was wrong when according to William Rawle who was the united states attorney for Pennsylvania for eight years wrote that Secession was the will of states are you going to say he was wrong and Traitor by the way he was in the Maryland society for promotion the Abolition of Slavery
799 posted on 09/27/2006 2:21:05 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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You can not Say that Secession was wrong when according to William Rawle who was the united states attorney for Pennsylvania for eight years wrote that Secession was the will of states are you going to say he was wrong and Traitor by the way he was in the Maryland society for promotion the Abolition of Slavery

SO EFFEN what? Arlen Specter was an attorney at one time, doesn't mean everything he says should be taken as Gospel.

800 posted on 09/27/2006 2:22:38 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Karl Rove you magnificent bastard!)
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